From: ccieall@comcast.net
Date: Fri Jan 13 2006 - 14:01:56 GMT-3
Hi guys, this topic should be able to exchange on this forum, but just need a litle bit easier and political correct - should not take to harsh on vendors:). Just like back to the college years, someone like Duke, others like Standford, others like MIT or Cornell, others like public university like myself vs. my brother he went to famous private institute in NY, etc...But the final destination is hope to get a better job when graduate:). All roads lead to Rome. Thanks guys. I WILL RESEARCH ON MY OWN. Don.
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From: jens petter eikeland <jenseike@start.no>
> I dont agree with you. on the contrarary, I took up this discussion to try and
> lead people to a better product, and hence better learning.. You really dont
> have to read it if you dont like it..
>
>
> loke :
>
> > I dont see how this discussion helps prepare for CCIE. Can we take
> > the arguing elsewhere? Please.
> >
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/13/06, Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc. wrote:
> > >
> > > JP How am I using this forum to advertise our products? (You
> > might
> > > want
> > > to run spell check next time you send an email) There was a
> > question
> > > about
> > > our product, and I answered it which, I might add has been very
> > useful
> > > to many clients making purchasing decisions. An advertisement might
> > > consist
> > > of a single line *congrats* message with a 4 line signature which I
> > see
> > > is
> > > still done by several of the online rack providers. An
> > advertisement
> > > would
> > > also consist of email announcements of our products which we have
> > not
> > > done. Again, there was a question asked and I answered it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regarding our pricing, youll see that our prices are very comparable
> > to
> > > other vendor products. We also have a fulltime sales team, a
> > fulltime
> > > support team and 4 instructors on board fulltime to assist our
> > > clients. If
> > > you were to have done business with us you would see a different in
> > the
> > > way we handle our clients and the way other vendors (particularly IE
> >
> > > since you insist on promoting their products and pricing) do. We
> > have
> > > hundreds of success stories, testimonials and happy customers and
> > our
> > > largest client is Cisco. Were obviously doing something right!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you for choosing IPexpert!,
> > >
> > > Wayne A. Lawson II
> > >
> > > Founder, President & CCIE #5244 - IPexpert, Inc.
> > >
> > > "When Will You Be an IP Expert?!"
> > >
> > > // Toll Free: +1.866.225.8064
> > >
> > > // Outside U.S. & Canada: +1.810.326.1444 x 601
> > >
> > > // eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> > >
> > > // Personal Mobile: +1.810.434.4801
> > >
> > > :: Live Chat: http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
> > >
> > > :: Mailto: wayne@ipexpert.com
> > >
> > > :: URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > >
> > > :: vRack Partner:
> > http://www.ProctorLabs.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "IPexpert, Inc. - The Clear Industry Leader in Self-Paced,
> > > Classroom-Based,
> > > (Online) Distance Training, Online vRack Rental, Video-on-Demand and
> > Audio
> > > Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCVP, CCIE R&S, Security,
> > SP
> > > and
> > > Voice Labs!"
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 5:14 AM
> > > To: 'Jens Petter Eikeland'; Richard Dumoulin; 'Wayne Lawson |
> > IPexpert,
> > > Inc.'
> > > Cc: ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE : IPExpert COD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe but in compensation we have Scott Morris who brings us his
> > > invaluable
> > > expertise and even answers technical questions related to other
> > vendors
> > > products. It is true that InternetworkE has a good product (one of
> > the
> > > best)
> > > and cheaper but it is the customer who finally decides how much to
> > invest.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -- Richard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Jens Petter Eikeland [mailto:jenseike@start.no]
> > > Envoyi : vendredi 13 janvier 2006 11:06
> > > @ : 'Richard Dumoulin'; 'Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.'
> > > Cc : ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Objet : RE: IPExpert COD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry.... No they are not. I did not see that you asked for voice...
> > >
> > > I do think that ipexpert have a extreme price anyway. And I think it
> > is
> > >
> > > A pity that they do take advantage of people that are trying to get
> > by
> > >
> > > This study. It seems to me they are more consirned over making money
> > >
> > > Than they are helping people, and that is the reason I stay with IE
> > since
> > >
> > > They go a long way to help you without you have to pay your shirt
> > of..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I also think that for Mr. Wayne Lawson to use this forum to advertice
> > his
> > >
> > > Product is wrong. That he can do on his own web site...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That is my opinion anyway
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > JP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr]
> > > Sent: 13. januar 2006 09:19
> > > To: 'jens petter eikeland'; Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.
> > > Cc: ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE : IPExpert COD
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > But JP, are they doing voice?
> > >
> > > -- Richard
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] De la part
> > de
> > > jens
> > > petter eikeland
> > > Envoyi : vendredi 13 janvier 2006 07:19
> > > @ : Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.
> > > Cc : ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Objet : RE: IPExpert COD
> > >
> > > Don ,
> > >
> > > Please consider the internetworkexpert VoD series first before
> > ipexperts.
> > > Ipexperts series is a 15 hour lection for which you pay around $800.
> > For a
> > > $200
> > > more you will get from internetworkexpert a 80 hours series which
> > contain
> > > a
> > > video that is the exact same as their live bootcamp. This is really
> > not a
> > > comparison. Internetworksexperts series is a teach by sombody that
> > is
> > > considered the best in the buissnis. The price ipexpert has set on
> > this
> > > (and
> > > other products that they sell) is just to high. Here is the link to
> > > internetworkexpert :
> > >
> > > http://www.internetworkexpert.com/ieatcod-rs.htm'
> > >
> > > JP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc." :
> > >
> > > > Don,
> > > >
> > > > Our COD product (R&S and Voice) is a collection of the
> > lectures
> > > > that
> > > > are given by our instructor(s). You see the same slides used in
> > the
> > > > class
> > > > and hear the instructor's voice / lecture. There are samples on
> > our
> > > > website
> > > > if you'd like to take a look.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for choosing IPexpert!,
> > > > Wayne A. Lawson II
> > > > Founder, President & CCIE #5244 - IPexpert, Inc.
> > > > "When Will You Be an IP Expert?!"
> > > > // Toll Free: +1.866.225.8064
> > > > // Outside U.S. & Canada: +1.810.326.1444 x 601
> > > > // eFax: +1.810.454.0130
> > > > // Personal Mobile: +1.810.434.4801
> > > > :: Live Chat: http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
> > > > :: Mailto: wayne@ipexpert.com
> > > > :: URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
> > > > :: vRack Partner: http://www.ProctorLabs.com
> > > >
> > > > "IPexpert, Inc. - The Clear Industry Leader in Self-Paced,
> > > > Classroom-Based,
> > > > (Online) Distance Training, Online vRack Rental, Video-on-Demand
> > and
> > > > Audio
> > > > Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCVP, CCIE R&S, Security,
> > SP
> > > > and
> > > > Voice Labs!"
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > ccieall@comcast.net
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:46 PM
> > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Subject: IPExpert COD
> > > >
> > > > Hi group,
> > > > Could anyone here has used IPExpert COD DVD for CCIE Voice give me
> > an
> > > > advice? How does the class present and the format of the class? Is
> > the
> > > > class
> > > > like knowledgenet COD with lecture and display in motion or just
> > audio
> > > > via
> > > > DVD? Does the COD DVD class content with lab after each chapter or
> > > > just
> > > > lecture?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Mvh
> > > Jens Petter Eikeland
> > >
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