From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Jan 13 2006 - 13:45:42 GMT-3
Really now? Since, of course, you're being professional enough to hide
behind a "classy" Hotmail account, I would certainly love to speak with you
of your experiences or perceptions.
I certainly do not joke about how Cisco does their business. We may joke
about some functions and "features" in programming (well known issues to
make sure you don't fall into logical traps) it is kept on a professional
level.
As for being up to date or not, one thing you will learn in my classes is
that I do not teach "the exam" to you. If you want that, go elsewhere. If
you want to learn the technologies and how to conquer the exam and really
know things, then my class is appropriate.
It amazes me sometimes the lack of constructive criticism that can be made,
or the balls it takes to cower behind anonymous e-mails where nobody can
honestly verify that you really ever actually sat through one of my classes,
let alone never said anything otherwise.
*shrug* If you choose to be more professional about this, I'd be happy to
discuss your perceptions and feelings offline.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, JNCIE
#153, CISSP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
PS. If you spent half the time looking at IE's web siteas you did setting
up that Hotmail account, you would know whether or not they offer ILT (from
their main page). ;)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of IP
Expert Sucks
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:37 AM
To: ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: IPExpert COD
I took IPExpert Bootcamp last year, the Instructor was Scott Morris. I admit
this man knows his stuff, but the class was always a joke and bitching Cisco
stuffs and the way they do their business. Definitely I lost my money -
4000$ - without taking in consideration the travel money from Mexico- for
one crude week of routing bitching. Also Scott Morris is more up 2 date
about Juniper examinations than Cisco CCIE Lab Exam.
if you are planning to buy a WB, IPExpert Woorbook v7 is a kid tales book
is you compare their material with Internetwork Experts or NMC
I am wondering if the Brians has an Instructor Lead Bootcamp ?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] En nombre de
Richard Dumoulin Enviado el: viernes, 13 de enero de 2006 6:14
Para: 'Jens Petter Eikeland'; Richard Dumoulin; 'Wayne Lawson | IPexpert,
Inc.'
CC: ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Asunto: RE : IPExpert COD
Maybe but in compensation we have Scott Morris who brings us his invaluable
expertise and even answers technical questions related to other vendors
products. It is true that InternetworkE has a good product (one of the best)
and cheaper but it is the customer who finally decides how much to invest.
-- Richard
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Jens Petter Eikeland [mailto:jenseike@start.no]
Envoyi : vendredi 13 janvier 2006 11:06
@ : 'Richard Dumoulin'; 'Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.'
Cc : ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: IPExpert COD
Sorry.... No they are not. I did not see that you asked for voice...
I do think that ipexpert have a extreme price anyway. And I think it is
A pity that they do take advantage of people that are trying to get by
This study. It seems to me they are more consirned over making money
Than they are helping people, and that is the reason I stay with IE since
They go a long way to help you without you have to pay your shirt of..
I also think that for Mr. Wayne Lawson to use this forum to advertice his
Product is wrong. That he can do on his own web site...
That is my opinion anyway
JP
_____
From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:Richard.Dumoulin@vanco.fr]
Sent: 13. januar 2006 09:19
To: 'jens petter eikeland'; Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.
Cc: ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE : IPExpert COD
But JP, are they doing voice?
-- Richard
-----Message d'origine-----
De : nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] De la part de jens petter eikeland
Envoyi : vendredi 13 janvier 2006 07:19
@ : Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc.
Cc : ccieall@comcast.net; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: IPExpert COD
Don ,
Please consider the internetworkexpert VoD series first before ipexperts.
Ipexperts series is a 15 hour lection for which you pay around $800. For a
$200
more you will get from internetworkexpert a 80 hours series which contain a
video that is the exact same as their live bootcamp. This is really not a
comparison. Internetworksexperts series is a teach by sombody that is
considered the best in the buissnis. The price ipexpert has set on this
(and
other products that they sell) is just to high. Here is the link to
internetworkexpert :
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/ieatcod-rs.htm'
<http://www.internetworkexpert.com/ieatcod-rs.htm'>
JP
"Wayne Lawson | IPexpert, Inc." <wayne@ipexpert.com>:
>Don,
>
> Our COD product (R&S and Voice) is a collection of the lectures
>that
>are given by our instructor(s). You see the same slides used in the
>class
>and hear the instructor's voice / lecture. There are samples on our
>website
>if you'd like to take a look.
>
>Thank you for choosing IPexpert!,
>Wayne A. Lawson II
>Founder, President & CCIE #5244 - IPexpert, Inc.
>"When Will You Be an IP Expert?!"
>// Toll Free: +1.866.225.8064
>// Outside U.S. & Canada: +1.810.326.1444 x 601
>// eFax: +1.810.454.0130
>// Personal Mobile: +1.810.434.4801
>:: Live Chat: http://www.ipexpert.com/chat
><http://www.ipexpert.com/chat>
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>:: URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.IPexpert.com>
>:: vRack Partner: http://www.ProctorLabs.com
><http://www.ProctorLabs.com>
>
>"IPexpert, Inc. - The Clear Industry Leader in Self-Paced,
>Classroom-Based,
>(Online) Distance Training, Online vRack Rental, Video-on-Demand and
>Audio
>Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCVP, CCIE R&S, Security, SP
>and
>Voice Labs!"
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com
<mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com> ] On Behalf
>Of
>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 9:46 PM
>Subject: IPExpert COD
>
>Hi group,
>Could anyone here has used IPExpert COD DVD for CCIE Voice give me an
>advice? How does the class present and the format of the class? Is the
>class
>like knowledgenet COD with lecture and display in motion or just audio
>via
>DVD? Does the COD DVD class content with lab after each chapter or
>just
>lecture?
>
>Thanks,
>Don
>
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Mvh
Jens Petter Eikeland
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