From: Koen Peetermans (k.peetermans@chello.be)
Date: Fri Dec 16 2005 - 17:56:16 GMT-3
Well, I wish them luck in any case. They should be applauded for trying,
that's what it's about isn't it ? No succes possible without trying it.
Kind regards,
Koen.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean C [mailto:Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com]
Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 21:53
To: Koen Peetermans; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: WAY OT: What would you do?
To each their own - you have your opinion and they have theirs.
As I heartedly admitted, my coworkers have taken neither the R&S lab nor the
Security lab. And I can only comment at my own futility at the R&S lab.
Their folly, not mine.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Koen Peetermans" <k.peetermans@chello.be>
To: "'Sean C'" <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 3:44 PM
Subject: RE: WAY OT: What would you do?
> Well, if your coworkers think the CCIE security cert is an easier cert
> than
> R&S, believe me they are in for a big surprise.....
>
> Just as big of a surprise maybe as the first time I attempted the security
> lab.
>
> And that with a CCIE R&S,CCSP and extensive experience in
> PIX/Concentrators/VPN's....
>
> Koen.
>
> #13730
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Sean
> C
> Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 14:53
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: WAY OT: What would you do?
>
> Hi Stuart,
>
> Interesting question - and I've flirted with the same idea myself
> recently.
>
> 2 coworkers of mine decided they wanted a CCIE in something (they both
> have
> the CCNP and CCSP - as do I). They both decided to go for the CCIE
> Security
>
> track. Their reasoning was they felt that the Security track was going to
> be an easier cert than the R& S cert. They felt that the Security track
> was
>
> more focused on 1 area rather than the R&S track that seems to take a
> little
>
> from a bunch of different areas. At first, I was puzzled by their
> statement
>
> as I had never considered their view (I have been a victim of the R&S lab
> too many times to count). Perhaps they are on to something, but I've
> invested so much time in the R&S, I'm sticking with the R&S.
>
> They did acknowledge 2 challenges, though, with their decision to focus on
> the Security track:
> 1-not as many 3rd-party vendors offer quality study material for Security
> vs
>
> R&S
> AND
> 2-it may be more difficult (ie -expensive) to acquire a lab for Security.
>
> As for me? I still look to the day when I can have both an R&S and
> Security
>
> CCIE under my signature. But, with my first little one on the way, who
> knows....
>
> HTH,
> Sean
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Stuart.Juggins@computacenter.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 4:49 AM
> Subject: WAY OT: What would you do?
>
>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>>
>>
>> Little bit of advice needed, my dilemma is as follows.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm currently studying for my R&S Lab and have quite a lot to do before
>> I'll be ready. Also a colleague of mine is currently studying for his
>> CCSP and will then be going on to his Security Lab as this is what he
>> prefers (finds it more interesting), I had also thought of doing this as
>> Security is interesting and is a growth area.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was chatting to a couple of new hire CCIE's to my company and they have
>> said to me not to bother doing the R&S but to go down the CCSP (or Voice
>> if I wanted) route and then do the Security lab in a year or so. At
>> first
>> I thought no, but they were talking to me about the job market (in the
>> UK)
>> and were saying that whenever they had interviews they would be asked
>> what
>> there CCIE was in (i.e R&S) and then what they specialized in (e.g
>> Security, Voice etc). Basically what they found was there's an abundant
>> supply of R&S CCIE's hence the requirements to specialize in something.
>> They were saying to me CCSP's are earning nearly as much as R&S CCIE's,
>> and if I did the Security lab I would be far more employable.
>>
>>
>>
>> What do you think? If you were 6 months away from "attempting" (possibly
>> not passing) the R&S lab would you continue down that route or extend
>> your
>> studying by 6-12 months and go down the more employable route?
>>
>>
>>
>> I know it's a personal decision, but would appreciate the opinion of you
>> guys. This does really only relate to the UK job market. Also I
>> appreciate that for some the main reason to do the CCIE is not financial
>> incentive, but that is a major factor for most.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Stuart.
>>
>>
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