From: Emir trhulj (skimad@gmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 13 2005 - 07:26:27 GMT-3
I got really excited today when I found this on the cisco website but
unfortunatley I just don't think I will be able to part with so much cash
for what I belive will give me back so little. A 4 hour lab is not the real
thing. I mean if you do two of these its nearly 2/3 the cost of doing the
exam. It just does not add up.
I will however hound our Cisco NSA Eng for a few freebies. :)
On 12/13/05, Leigh Harrison <ccileigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm going against the grain here.
>
> I think this is a great idea and long overdue from Cisco. The majority
> of us here know the value of taking a mock lab before the real event.
> The only reason I found InternetworkExpert and others, was because of
> this forum, which I found one day whilst searching on google for help in
> studying for my ccie.
>
> I found that the training offerings from Cisco were quite poor in the
> actual practical section. I work for a gold partner and have used the
> PEC several times and found it to be very good and often wondered why
> there was not a more intricate ccie test on there.
>
> I my opinion, a mock exam is a must offering and I'm sure the chaps from
> the different vendors here will vouch for the profitability and value to
> the student of such a product.
>
> I don't think that this will downgrade the quality of the lab exam, it
> will give people the opportunity to realise what as ass kicking is dealt
> out in the lab, and this will only be a 4 hour affair, not the full 8 hr
> marathon. Also with the publication by cisco that mock lab exams exist,
> I'm sure there will be more google hits on other sites offering similar
> products.
>
> As a final note, I expect to see people posting on the site in months to
> come saying that they nailed the 4 hr cisco mock exam, but failed
> miserably in the actual lab !!
>
> LH
> #15331
>
> Roberto Giana wrote:
>
> > But this would require to change the testing center rules. It would
> > require that companys who run a testing center are not allowed to let
> > their own employees take the exam at their own centers. I have seen to
> > mutch people cheating in their own testing centers... funny that for
> > example most of the time when the video cam had problems recording the
> > exam location an employee was taking a test...
> > Don't let the CCIE level come down to a paper title!...
> >
> >
> > Just my opinion...
> >
> > Roberto
> >
> > Vincent Mashburn wrote:
> >
> >> They could just set it up at a testing center. It would be just like
> >> taking the written.
> >>
> >> Vince Mashburn
> >> Engineer
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Zamberlan, Diego
> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:57 PM
> >> To: Schulz, Dave; Anthony Sequeira; Jeremy O'Dette
> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: Cisco Launches Pre-Lab Assessment for CCIE Certification
> >>
> >> One word : cheating
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Schulz, Dave
> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 1:27 PM
> >> To: Anthony Sequeira; Jeremy O'Dette
> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: RE: Cisco Launches Pre-Lab Assessment for CCIE Certification
> >>
> >> And....if they can do this on-line, then maybe they should think about
> >> doing the real exam on-line and save everyone the travel, expenses,
> >> scheduling, etc.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave Schulz,
> >> Email: dschulz@dpsciences.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Anthony Sequeira
> >> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:56 PM
> >> To: Jeremy O'Dette
> >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Re: Cisco Launches Pre-Lab Assessment for CCIE Certification
> >>
> >> Hey - it is only $279 (Introductory Price) to Beta Test a 4 hour mock
> >> lab
> >> from Cisco!
> >>
> >> What an absolute joke. Thanks for nothing Cisco.
> >>
> >> I shudder to think about how many of these they will sell.
> >>
> >> If only more people knew about InternetworkExpert.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12/12/05, Jeremy O'Dette <jeremyodette@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I'd be interested to see how Cisco's "Assessor" turns out - both in
> >>>
> >>
> >> terms
> >>
> >>
> >>> of
> >>> content and the quality of feedback it gives you. Four hours seems to
> >>>
> >>
> >> be
> >>
> >>
> >>> a
> >>> bit short in my opinion. Keeping your mental focus for 8 hours was
> >>>
> >>
> >> one of
> >>
> >>
> >>> the most challenging parts of the lab for me. Somewhere around 2PM is
> >>> where
> >>> I found careless errors start to creep in.
> >>>
> >>> I did take several CheckITs before my actual lab. The scoring nailed
> >>> exactly where I was at the time and the feeback was extremely helpful.
> >>> Putting myself through the full 8 hour experience prior to the real
> >>>
> >>
> >> lab
> >>
> >>
> >>> gave
> >>> me a good idea of how prepared I was and where I needed to keep
> >>> working. If
> >>> you're interested in seeing where you stack up before you take the
> >>>
> >>
> >> real
> >>
> >>
> >>> thing I'd highly recommend a CheckIT.
> >>>
> >>> Jeremy O'Dette
> >>> CCIE #14973 R&S
> >>> jeremyodette@hotmail.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: loc.pham@comcast.net (Loc Pham)
> >>>> Reply-To: loc.pham@comcast.net (Loc Pham)
> >>>> To: "Babylon By The Bay" <tech-lists@rexglobal.com>,
> >>>> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Cisco Launches Pre-Lab Assessment for CCIE Certification
> >>>> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:14:44 +0000
> >>>>
> >>>> Look good,
> >>>> I am ready to sign up and I see only 4 hrs exam: no no !
> >>>> I stick with CheckIT ;-))) no pain, no gain for 30 bucks less
> >>>>
> >>>
> >> with
> >>
> >>
> >>> no
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> NDA.
> >>>> YMMV,
> >>>> IP.
> >>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >>>> From: "Babylon By The Bay" <tech-lists@rexglobal.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 12 DEC 2005: Cisco Systems announces the availability of the CCIE
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Assessor
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Lab for Routing and Switching, the first CCIE practice lab and
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> assessment
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> developed and offered by Cisco. With CCIE Assessor Lab, candidates
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> can
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> assess their strengths and weaknesses and improve exam readiness
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> using
> >>
> >>
> >>>> Cisco
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> equipment and lab scenarios-all from their own desktop.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Designed as an option for Exam Preparation, the four-hour CCIE
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Assessor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Lab
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> features remote access to live equipment using a Web-based, lab
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> management
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> tool and configuration scenarios which simulate the format and
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> difficulty of
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> the actual CCIE lab exam. After completing the lab, candidates
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> receive
> >>
> >>
> >>> a
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> detailed assessment of their performance, including the correct
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>> command
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> lines and suggestions for further study. The CCIE Assessor Lab is
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> currently
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> available only for the CCIE Routing and Switching track.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> Assessment
> >>
> >>
> >>> labs
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> are
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> being developed for the CCIE Security and CCIE Voice tracks as
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> well.
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> From December 12, 2005 thru March 31, 2006, Cisco will offer a
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> special
> >>
> >>
> >>>>> introductory price for each CCIE Assessor Lab scheduled before
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >> March
> >>
> >>
> >>> 31,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 2006. Assess your readiness for the CCIE Lab Exam. Enroll today!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/#assessor
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ..
> >>>>
> >
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