From: Edreams.net (edreams@ifiniti.net)
Date: Fri Nov 11 2005 - 04:46:34 GMT-3
Hi,
I just joined this group.Can someone provide me Jongsoo's list as i am preparing to take on the lab exam?
Thanks and regards
Gyan.
On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 Javier Tomi wrote :
> Yes, I followed Simon Hart advice and went through
> Jongsoo' list several
> times. To be honest, I found it quit interesting as a
> base, but a bit
> rigid some times (too much specific on the way it solve
> some issues). I
> suggest you to take it just as a framework; an starting
> point to compose
> your own checklist. I shortened it a bit and customized
> it to my own way.
>
> The list should be a result of what works for you on
> your practice labs...
>
> Best Regards
>
> Javi
>
> CCIEin2006 wrote:
>
> >Congratulations Javier,
> > I was wondering if you followed a checklist such as
> Jongsoo's list?
> >
> > On 11/10/05, Javier Tomi <fjtm@tid.es> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Well, may be I am dreaming, but It seems to be true
> (have checked like a
> >>hundred times at cisco web site)... I passed last
> Monday in Brussels
> >>(CCIE#15333) and yes, it was my first time... :-)
> >>
> >>It seems I were really near to Leigh and I did not
> notice. It is a pity
> >>because it would have been really nice to have a beer
> with a GS fellow
> >>after the exam. Anyway, this is my story...
> >>
> >>Although my first time, it has not been an easy path.
> My written was 13
> >>months ago, and since then I have been working hard
> to get prepared for
> >>the exam. Like most of you I am employed and a bit
> overwhelmed at work,
> >>and that leave not too much time to study.
> >>
> >>Although my boss agreed to pay for the taxes of the
> exam, they did not
> >>offered me any more aid. I therefore had to make a
> personal bet on this
> >>certification... After persuading my wife, I bought a
> fairly complete
> >>home lab (over 6000 ) from another CCIE and begun to
> study. I passed
> >>almost every minute I could playing with the routers,
> working on
> >>different layouts, technologies... I also spend tons
> of time going
> >>through different books and documentation from cisco
> on the way from
> >>home to the work and back at home, even on the
> bathroom... Of course no
> >>real vacations at all nor free weekends but for
> study. Last year I do
> >>not recall having slept more than 5 hours even on
> weekends. Well, in
> >>fact all this stuff is something you already know as
> surely most of you
> >>are living the same right now...
> >>
> >>Several times I thought my wife will leave me. She
> had to carry on
> >>everything, the house, my two little daughters (17
> and 1 months),
> >>everything... And she was really exhausted. But she
> did not give up, we
> >>did not give up, and here we are.
> >>
> >>Regarding the exam, I arrive Brussels on Sunday,
> being the exam next
> >>Monday. Just a few hours taking a last view over my
> notes and I went to
> >>bed at 10:30 pm. To my surprise I managed to sleep
> almost 8 hours. After
> >>waking up, I took a shower, had breakfast, and went
> walking to the
> >>Examination centre not far from my hotel.
> >>
> >>We were over 10 taking the exam, although not all of
> us were for R&S.
> >>Once on the examination room the proctor told us our
> rack numbers, gave
> >>us brief instructions, and the exam begun.
> >>
> >>Hardly 5 minute after the beginning of the exam
> several people was
> >>typing crazily on the keyboard, which really made me
> really nervous. I
> >>tried to manage it and continue with my careful
> reading of the whole
> >>test. I made drawings for FR, IGP, BGP, and Multicast,
> But when I reach
> >>QoS I could not help but to stop reading and begin
> working on Layer 2...
> >>Over 35 minutes had passed.
> >>
> >>At this point I found my first headache, ' the
> keyboard layout' was in
> >>english and I did not know were to find anything. Of
> course this is
> >>something I could have guess, but did not. I tried to
> change it but I
> >>couldn't so It took me a while to get used to the new
> layout and to make
> >>my quiet (I even had to ask the proctor where to find
> some keys...).
> >>
> >>Over 45 minutes had passed and I have entered no
> command at all on the
> >>routers but my alias. But then, the magic appeared. I
> begun to go task
> >>by task fulfilling everything. Whenever I found
> something I was not sure
> >>about my approach I made a note and passed to the
> next task. As the time
> >>passed I was more confident with myself, and even
> though I was fairly
> >>more error prone when entering commands because of
> the english layout of
> >>the keyboard, I managed to complete almost all the
> exam (over 90 points)
> >>before lunch.
> >>
> >>At lunch time I had made all but the ISDN backup
> solution. I had also
> >>checked full connectivity through TCL scripts and
> everything was fine. I
> >>could not believe it. Life was beautiful...
> >>
> >>After lunch, and much more quiet than at the
> beginning, I finished all
> >>the pending points (including ISDN backup and skipped
> questions). I had
> >>still almost four hours to go. I reloaded all my
> routers and repeated
> >>the connectivity test for both backup and normal
> situation. All was
> >>fine, so I begun to evaluate my situation in terms of
> fairly assured
> >>points (88), probably correct answers (10) and
> probably incorrect
> >>answers (2). But this was only my guess...
> >>
> >>A second detailed pass through the exam question by
> question made me see
> >>that I had made some little mistakes that could have
> made me fail.
> >>Things as stupid as not disabling inv-arp in one of
> the FR interfaces,
> >>the direction of a filter / policy-map...
> >>
> >>Although some of the task are clearly enough and
> leave no doubt, The
> >>wording of other task gave a wide margin for
> interpretation. Therefore I
> >>begun to ask the proctor for every little detail
> subjected to
> >>misinterpretation. That was really useful, as I found
> some mistakes on
> >>my approach and some implicit requirements I had not
> considered during
> >>my first pass through. In fact the Proctor is one of
> the best tools
> >>available on the exam if you are able to make the
> questions in the
> >>correct manner.
> >>
> >>When my assured points where "more assured" I begun
> to work on the
> >>"probably correct answers". As I still had 2 hours
> and no one was part
> >>of the core I did not care about the value of each
> one or the chances of
> >>getting the points. I just addressed them in order.
> The other 2 points
> >>were something I did not manage to understand, so I
> left it untouched.
> >>
> >>I spent the time left triple checking my answers in
> the DocCD.
> >>
> >>I went out the exam as a happy man, being conscious
> that I had been
> >>lucky with the exam, and that I had best chances to
> pass it.
> >>Nevertheless, once in the airport I remembered all
> those stories I read
> >>on GS and other forums regarding people who as me had
> done a good exam
> >>but had failed anyway. The doubt begun to enter in my
> mind, and I spend
> >>the another 2 hours reproducing the exam entirely
> (diagrams, questions,
> >>points associated with each question...) while in the
> airport. I wanted
> >>to be sure I will be able to complain in case a
> received a failed grade.
> >>
> >>Once at home in Madrid, and although I tried, I
> couldn't slept that
> >>night. My results arrived at 2:20 in the morning. I
> had passed...
> >>
> >>I know I have been lucky, the exam was not too
> difficult, and everything
> >>went ok. In any case, my personal opinion is that
> although knowledge is
> >>a must to pass the exam, It is even more important
> the exam approach.
> >>All that stuff about reading the exam carefully,
> preview where problems
> >>can emerge, make IGP, BGP, Mcast diagrams to
> interiorize it all, skip
> >>things you don't know or you are not able to
> configure at first sight
> >>(but core topics) to do it at the end, be conscious
> of the value of each
> >>task and the dependencies between them..... it really
> what makes the
> >>difference.
> >>
> >>I would like to thank you all for your help and
> support. It has been
> >>really helpful following the different threads posted
> by lots of people.
> >>Even from the simplest questions posted here I have
> learn a lot. A
> >>special mention for Victor Cappuccio, which has been
> my study partner
> >>during lasts weeks, and made me keep on the road
> whenever my
> >>determination failed.
> >>
> >>To the rest of you, I wish you all to be as lucky as
> me on your future
> >>attempts. And remember, it is just an exam and
> therefore it is passable.
> >>
> >>Best Regards
> >>
> >>Javi
> >>
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