From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Wed Nov 09 2005 - 11:16:10 GMT-3
With mine, it's more of the constant need to be held, changed, fed or some
other variety of "direct connection". :) When they get older I'm sure
they'll be at least a LITTLE self-entertaining. But I have a hard time
putting off studying for several years till that happens. So for now, it's
just waiting until after 9pm.
But yup, it's a challenge! 15 and 2? There's an interesting combination!
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Guyler, Rik
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:41 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: It is possible!
Yeah...me too. Scott Morris can attest to this as well, eh Scott? ;-)
It's tough to study for the lab when your little one is climbing up your leg
to get a chance to bang on the keyboard with you...or the teenager wants to
play a game of Battlefield2 with you. I have a 15-yr old and a 2-yr
old...somebody help me! ;-)
_____
From: Michael Brooks [mailto:michaeljbrooks@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:45 PM
To: Guyler, Rik
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: It is possible!
Congrats !
I am trying to do both (parent & lab) at the same time. Now thats a
challenge.
Mike
On 11/8/05, Guyler, Rik <rguyler@shp-dayton.org
<mailto:rguyler@shp-dayton.org> > wrote:
You thought the lab was hard...wait till you have to be a parent! ;-)
Congratulations!
Rik
-----Original Message-----
From: Edwards, Andrew M [mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com
<mailto:andrew.m.edwards@boeing.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:13 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Subject: It is possible!
All I can say is...
God answered my prayers. I passed in SJ yesterday.
Yes, there is more to it than that, but I must give credit where credit is
due. A good combination of experience, effort, knowledge and most
importantly prayer go a long way towards having clarity and success during
the exam.
Now, for those of you new to GS I would like to share my story. One day I
realized it was time to prove to myself I could pass the CCIE R&S exam.
After passing the written on my second attempt I too started to study for
the lab. I quickly found myself without any colleagues to discuss these
crazy issues with at any level of depth required for the CCIE lab. So, I
got on GS and realized how deep things really would go.
Honestly, my first impression was that these GS people were crazy for
arguing about Tc shaping intervals and how many bits burst in excess;
absolute timers versus idle timers for lock n key, and all that other nitty
gritty nerd knob stuff. Initially I thought people on GS that talked about
these things in such detail really needed a life.
Little did I know that I would soon be joining them...
And so the story goes, I started to post on GS and discover exactly what I
didn't know; or at least what I thought I knew was wrong. And slowly, over
time, the facts got straight as did my technical experience and exposure. I
too started grinding over Tc intervals, burst patterns, NBAR protocol
matching, timer adjustments, etc. And then, one day I realized I was one of
those people who needed a life. 8)
Strangely, over the past 2 years, this list has become my second family full
of personalities and people I really look forward to meeting. Its what I
imagine a fraternity would have been like had I joined one. And, oddly
enough, I feel like I just got through with a self inflicted hazing that
I'll never forget.
So now, after having spend the better part of 2.5 years and 5 lab attempts I
have proven to myself the following:
1. The CCIE R&S exam is passable
2. Knowledge is required, but sometimes its not enough during the exam.
This is where determination comes in (e.g. try and try again).
3. And probably most important: Do ONLY what you are asked to do and make
sure things work EXACTLY the way you are asked.
And in closing, I want to thank the Scotts & Brians for pulling away my
knowledge blanket and really getting me to learn something. And Tim
(ccie2be = cciewhois). I remember last year Tim and I would futs over
IPv6 and why most V6 tunnels don't run IGPs and other stuff as we freaked
out about this addition to the lab - oh those unfounded fears!
And Chris Lewis for helping de-mystify QOS. Excellent stuff coming from
Chris on the QoS front people! Not necessarily new material, but sometimes
hearing it the 8th time a different way makes things sink in...
I would also like to thank the proctors Tom and Tuong in SJ. Thanks for
your guidance and patience for people like me who make this exam much harder
than it was probably meant to be. And, Tom, I do hope I see you
again but this time I'll guy you lunch - no voucher required. 8)
And finally, the guys I really want to thank are Marvin, Brad, and Bill
Lejewski at www.ccbootcamp.com <http://www.ccbootcamp.com> . Yes, Bill
(shows how dated I am).
These guys have really watched me struggle. They knew I had knowledge, but
just failed to convert during the actual exam. They were always there to
help with anything I needed and they never gave up on me.
Thanks guys. And now I'll take that beer Brad!
So, I'm sure you will all agree, its time to get reacquainted with my
estranged friends, family, and ever patient wife. She's 6 months pregnant
and I've got a lot of painting and baby-proofing to do. 8)
Thanks again GS! I hope to see you guys soon!
Andy Edwards
CCIE #15334
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