From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Wed Oct 26 2005 - 19:18:15 GMT-3
> Let's say I'm able to complete 3 lab scenerios a week for next 6
weeks,
> which labs should I attempt out of 30 available labs?
Different scenarios offer a different cross section of topics
within the scope of the exam. This is typically true of any vendor's
products, Internetwork Expert included. Instead of focusing on how
much content you can go through, focus on how well you absorb the
material.
I once had a student who bragged that they had gone through
hundreds of labs from all sorts of different sources. However, this
individual repeatedly failed the lab exam because although they had done
lots of labs, they didn't understand why the answers were as they were.
Your goal should be to understand the technologies covered within the
scope of the lab exam. If you attain this understanding then passing
the exam will come as a natural byproduct.
From my experience as an instructor I find that I only truly
understand a concept, whether it is CCIE related or not, when I can turn
around and explain it to someone else in my own words without any type
of teaching aid (notes, slides, etc). While your learning style may be
different, that plateau of knowledge remains the same.
If there are still doubts in your mind as to *why* a technology
works the way it does, those are the areas you need to tackle first
before even considering going the lab. In a Q&A session with Bill
Parkhurst he essentially said that reason most people fail the lab is a
lack of knowledge. It seems that this fact would be obvious, but in my
experience candidates fail to ask themselves where they lack knowledge.
What topics in your previous lab attempts gave you trouble? (FYI
rhetorical question) Have you truly gone through these topics step by
step and figured out the why behind them? In my opinion these type of
factors should play more into your study plan than a timeline should.
HTH,
Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Olopade Olorunloba
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 PM
> To: 'Gary'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: InternetworkExpert Question
>
> For you it might not be an issue, but being about to try the CCIE for
the
> first time, one of the nagging question is "Have I covered enough?"
That I
> think is group study question.
>
> Regards.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary [mailto:cisco.wizard@virgin.net]
> Sent: 27 October 2005 06:12
> To: Olopade Olorunloba
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: InternetworkExpert Question
>
> Why the hell are there all these bloody questions about commercial
labs on
> groupstudy? Dont they have a Q and A on their website for subscribers?
>
> Thoughts?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olopade Olorunloba" <lolopade@ipnxnigeria.net>
> To: <swm@emanon.com>; "'cacca mucca'" <caccamucca@hotmail.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Cc: <comserv@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:03 PM
> Subject: RE: InternetworkExpert Question
>
>
> > Yeah, but frankly, do you think the challenge labs, in IPExpert and
the
> old
> > Hellocomputers
> >
> > Too easy?
> > Easy?
> > are hard enough?
> > Just hard enough?
> > Damn to difficult?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
> > Sent: 26 October 2005 21:47
> > To: 'Olopade Olorunloba'; 'cacca mucca'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: InternetworkExpert Question
> >
> > For Service Provider lab? I believe the only options you have on
the
> market
> > right now are Ipexpert (3.0 coming in December) and TriNet (which
used
> to
> be
> > HelloComputers, and I have no idea on what, if any, version they're
> on)...
> >
> > So the choices are limited. But there's always the DocCD and a sick
> sense
> > of humor that you can always generate your own! ;)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olopade Olorunloba [mailto:lolopade@ipnxnigeria.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:28 PM
> > To: 'Scott Morris'; 'cacca mucca'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: InternetworkExpert Question
> >
> > Hmmmmmmm, hard ones.
> >
> > Which labs (SP) would you consider as hard?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Scott Morris
> > Sent: 26 October 2005 18:31
> > To: 'cacca mucca'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: InternetworkExpert Question
> >
> > I'm not with InternetworkExpert... I work with Ipexpert... But I
won't
> > hold it against you! (grin)
> >
> > So while I can't offer any opinion on their labs or numbers, I would
say
> > that if you know if your own weak areas in technology, I'd work on
them.
> If
> > you have all the technology stuff down already, then I would
concentrate
> on
> > your knowledge of the DocCD, and pick some labs to go through (hard
> ones,
> > but perhaps ones you've already done) and make sure you understand
WHY
> > everything was done a particular way in the solutions.
> >
> > The thought process is the most important thing you can work on!
That
> an
> > interpreting what is being asked, but the proctors are there to help
> with
> > that. If you can understand what your router is thinking and WHY at
any
> > point, then that's the best part that will help you on your exam,
> > particularly if you run into any problems!
> >
> > Cheers, and good luck!
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cacca mucca [mailto:caccamucca@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 1:27 PM
> > To: swm@emanon.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: comserv@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: InternetworkExpert Question
> >
> > Hi Scott and the members of Group Study,
> >
> > With 6 weeks out of taking my 4th attempt at CCIE Lab R&S, I have a
> > question.
> >
> > Let's say I'm able to complete 3 lab scenerios a week for next 6
weeks,
> > which labs should I attempt out of 30 available labs?
> >
> > Put in another way, what 18 labs would you recommend? I'll also be
> taking
> > your mock lab few weeks out.
> >
> > TIA
> >
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