From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 09 2005 - 10:27:31 GMT-3
Congrats on passing,
20,000 spent? Wow, you got off cheap :) agree with all your comments with
regard to NMC, they are pretty great, in fact I was in one of their classes
with you some time ago...
jl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Donald" <Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk>
To: "Robert Hosford" <cisco@certifiednets.com>; "Group Study"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Cc: <cisco@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: I passed the CCIE Lab. So now I have to sign the wall of pai n.
> Well Done, Go and get pissed.........
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mani poopal [mailto:mani_ccie@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 1:06 PM
> To: Robert Hosford; Group Study
> Cc: cisco@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: I passed the CCIE Lab. So now I have to sign the wall of
> pain.
>
> Congrats, now you can get all the time back and enjoy.
>
> Mani
>
> Robert Hosford <cisco@certifiednets.com> wrote:
> I wanted to let everybody know that my CCIE has been a long time coming.
> It
> has been a lesson in patience, perseverance, and dedication. No single
> test
> has been more difficult than the CCIE.
>
>
>
> The problem with the CCIE is not that it is not one test that you take
> when
> you step into the lab. But rather it is a series of tests that can span
> years. It'll test your bank account (20k+), test friendships, your
> marriage, your endurance, and your belief in yourself to achieve this
> goal.
> You basically are going to give up your life of fun for a long time. And
> more than likely you will fail the first time you do. You will have to ask
> yourself why do it again? I know why I asked myself that several times.
> You need to ask yourself if you can devote a year of your time, over 300
> hours of lab time, 20k dollars. But then again if I had known how much it
> was going to cost or how long it would take I might not have tried. So
> maybe ignorance is bliss. :)
>
>
>
> So now I am CCIE 14711. And I have a lot of people to thank:
>
> God, the Wife, my family, General Dynamics, Bruce, Val, Bob, Jeff, and
> Gary.
>
>
>
> I cannot say enough about the Net Master crew, except that if you want to
> earn your number, you need to go to them. I know that I would not be a
> CCIE without their help. I would sit in class and go, "Hey I didn't know
> that." They made me think out of the box, they helped me hone my skills. I
> know that when I go to one of Bruce's classes, I am getting my money's
> worth.
>
>
>
> I want to give a special thank you to Bob Sinclair for giving me a tip
> with
> simple scripts that made my life so much easier. He must've added twenty
> points just because of that tip. I know that went a long way in boosting
> my
> confidence. In the past I had lost points due to unreachable networks. I
> could ping my entire lab, every interface from every router in ten
> seconds.
> It found problems in a timely manner so that I could correct them and get
> the points I needed to pass the lab. I do not take the lab without
> following his advice. I could not live without the script. I passed the
> CCIE because of it.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Rack Time Rentals for their great customer service and
> gear.
>
> Rack Time Rentals worked great with the NetMaster DoIts. One time I worked
> through a tornado on a doit lab using the Rack Time Rental Gear. (Email me
> for more details on that crazy day) Just plan in advance when you can use
> their gear.
>
>
>
> I want to thank Bruce Caslow for always encouraging me, working with me,
> and
>
> for one Outstanding Website. The Checkit, the Showits, The Doits, the
> website has everything. Oh, if you don't buy the Doit labs and work
> through
> them, then your not serious about getting a CCIE. I took the Doits and
> used
> the horizontal approach to pass my CCIE. If you don't know what that means
> then get to NMC2.
>
>
>
> When I walk away from a NetMaster class, I still have the ability to learn
> because of his website. It was my homepage during my CCIE preparation. I
> will never forget the day that he pulled up my statistics and Bruce was
> blown away by them. I was putting the hurt on his website. Based upon his
> statistics of my usage, we were able to look at how my preparation was
> going. I love the CCIE roadmap. I love the self assessment and the checkit
> assessment. I love the quiz it's. And when I found a mistake on the
> website or lab, Val fixed it very fast. They take comments and suggestions
> that will help them improve. But they're not afraid to tell you that
> you're
> not ready. That's what love about them, they are honest. The person
> answering the emails is the same person in class. These guys are bunch of
> workaholics and they work just as hard as you do. And in some classes I
> saw
> them working harder than some of the students. The classes which you make
> of it, you get out of that what you put into it. So you better come
> prepared to work. Bruce, once again, I want to thank you for the study
> group. Because of the study group, I found a new way to work in the lab
> and
> that probably added ten points.
>
>
>
> I love the NMC2, because the students there are top notch. I learned from
> every single one of them. I sat in one class next to a guy I was sure that
> was going to pass the CCIE lab. He was outstanding in class. When Bruce
> gives us a lab to complete, this guy nailed it. It was his first time in
> class. By some chance we both ended up going to the lab together. We both
> didn't pass that day. But we learned, we came back, and we both passed.
>
>
>
> So why am I saying this? Because the Net Master Class is not a brain dump.
> You'll learn a ton of material. But how you approach the test is just as
> important. Bruce gave me a game plan. He told me where I was weak. He told
> me where I was strong. But the way to look at and work the lab was the
> most
> important thing I talked to him about. In my first lab attempt, I let the
> lab intimidate me. I felt that I knew as much as my friends who had passed
> the CCIE. But the pressure got to me and I failed. On my last lab attempt
> I was confident and I was not intimidated by the lab.
>
>
>
> If you're looking to pass the R/S CCIE there's no need to look anywhere
> else. If you have the time, the money, if you have the ambition, the
> heart,
> the drive, then Bruce Caslow and the Net Master team has everything else
> you'll need a period.
>
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