From: Gustavo Novais (gustavo.novais@novabase.pt)
Date: Sun Oct 02 2005 - 20:52:49 GMT-3
Hi, I obviously bought the last one, version 7.0.
The workbook is great, and accompanied with the proctor guide, even better. So I'd say, for a first interaction (if you have time) go for IPExpert, and learn the technology upside down. Then refine yourself with other workbook (i'm starting now IEWB).
You must remember that no matter how experienced, a workbook is always the authors point of view of the blueprint. There may be several. It's up to us to be familiarized enough to understand the subtleties of a question. If you can afford, after knowing the technology, try to have an idea of how to interpret a question, for that you may need a detailed look at the solutions. Note that I'm not saying to solve things with the solutions book wide open in front of you.
I say that you can and should do things your own way, but be disciplined enough to go at it again, this time with solutions point of view, and understand why they differ. It is harder to do that if they only give you a config file, like in Ipexpert, but not impossible. But if they detail why they did something its easier...
Most important, no matter what your study guide is, have a good night sleep before the exam, and pay attention to what you do, sometimes, you lose more points on the easy tasks than on the harder ones, you just think that it is piece of cake, but you must remember to put the cherry on top of the cake, or else you won't get points.
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Cappuccio [mailto:cvictor@protokolgroup.com]
Sent: sabado, 1 de Outubro de 2005 20:03
To: Gustavo Novais
Cc: cciein2006@yahoo.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?
Hola Gustavo so you are saying that IPExperts solution is not good for the first Attempt? What version of the WorkBook did you bought?
Thanks
Victor
Gustavo Novais wrote:
>Regarding your question, I'll give my personal experience.
>I bought IpExpert, Workbook + Proctor Guide. It didn't have the solutions, which allowed me to configure stuff as I thought they would be, guided by the proctor guide, and of course forced me to dig for the answers on the documentation (books or docCD). Then I went to the lab. I failed. I had no surprises on the technology, Ipexpert covered it extensively. I think my problem was that I was used to do things "my own way". When I checked after doing a practice lab the solutions provided at their forum, many of them I didn't agree, or they were outdated. At a point I just did not trust the solutions anymore. The point is that, even failing, I still think Ipexpert is a great exercise book!
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>Now, for my second attempt, since I (think) I learned the technology from Ipexpert I've bought IEWB. My purpose from it is that I review all the technology and look at their solutions+explanations, in order to get some guidance on the wording, and the subtleties involved with a task. For refinement...
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>Just for an example, I did an assessment test some time ago, and one thing I lost points, was that I didn't configured ipv6 enable on an interface before putting an IPv6 address. Was it really necessary? I don't think so... Would it make you lose points on the lab? Perhaps.
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>My 2 cents
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>Gustavo
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>Sent: sabado, 1 de Outubro de 2005 3:02
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?
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>I was considering purchasing one of the CCIE training workbooks, but I'm not crazy about how solutions are presented.
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>>From the workbooks my friends have shown me (I think one was IPEXPERT) they either provided no solution or the solutions were in the form of router configurations with no explanations of why certain commands were configured.
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>I guess figuring out why the answers are configured that way is part of the fun/challenge, but I find it more educating for the solutions guide to explain exactly why certain commands are configured.
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>Are all the training workbooks like this? If not which ones provide detailed explanations and also is the solution guide an extra charge?
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>Thanks!
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