Re: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?

From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 01 2005 - 20:45:01 GMT-3


I didnt have a problem with the ipexpert V6 book (havent tried the newest
version). The solution guide was very helpful as well. The other vendors are
all equally well put together, each one has a different approach to teaching
so your mileage may vary depending on your learning style. I bought them all
and pulled equal amounts of great knowledge from all of them...I personally
thing that's the best way to learn this stuff, always keep surprising
yourself.

jl

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Cappuccio" <cvictor@protokolgroup.com>
To: "Gustavo Novais" <gustavo.novais@novabase.pt>
Cc: <cciein2006@yahoo.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?

> Hola Gustavo so you are saying that IPExperts solution is not good for the
> first Attempt? What version of the WorkBook did you bought?
> Thanks
> Victor
>
>
> Gustavo Novais wrote:
>
>>Regarding your question, I'll give my personal experience.
>>I bought IpExpert, Workbook + Proctor Guide. It didn't have the solutions,
>>which allowed me to configure stuff as I thought they would be, guided by
>>the proctor guide, and of course forced me to dig for the answers on the
>>documentation (books or docCD). Then I went to the lab. I failed. I had no
>>surprises on the technology, Ipexpert covered it extensively. I think my
>>problem was that I was used to do things "my own way". When I checked
>>after doing a practice lab the solutions provided at their forum, many of
>>them I didn't agree, or they were outdated. At a point I just did not
>>trust the solutions anymore. The point is that, even failing, I still
>>think Ipexpert is a great exercise book!
>>
>>Now, for my second attempt, since I (think) I learned the technology from
>>Ipexpert I've bought IEWB. My purpose from it is that I review all the
>>technology and look at their solutions+explanations, in order to get some
>>guidance on the wording, and the subtleties involved with a task. For
>>refinement...
>>
>>Just for an example, I did an assessment test some time ago, and one thing
>>I lost points, was that I didn't configured ipv6 enable on an interface
>>before putting an IPv6 address. Was it really necessary? I don't think
>>so... Would it make you lose points on the lab? Perhaps.
>>
>>My 2 cents
>>
>>Gustavo
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>cciein2006@yahoo.com
>>Sent: sabado, 1 de Outubro de 2005 3:02
>>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: Training Workbook Solutions - Not very helpfull?
>>
>>I was considering purchasing one of the CCIE training workbooks, but I'm
>>not crazy about how solutions are presented.
>>
>>>From the workbooks my friends have shown me (I think one was IPEXPERT)
>>>they either provided no solution or the solutions were in the form of
>>>router configurations with no explanations of why certain commands were
>>>configured.
>>
>>I guess figuring out why the answers are configured that way is part of
>>the fun/challenge, but I find it more educating for the solutions guide to
>>explain exactly why certain commands are configured.
>>
>>Are all the training workbooks like this? If not which ones provide
>>detailed explanations and also is the solution guide an extra charge?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
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