From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Sun Sep 25 2005 - 21:56:05 GMT-3
If it makes any difference, I didn't actually write the labs. :)
I edited a good number of them, and I wrote the PG for all the advanced
labs...
Each vendor tends to have their own little "favorite" things, so each has
its own strenghts and nuances. IPEXPERT ones do start out with
protocol-specific things, so they give a better learning flavor to them.
But once you hit the multiprotocol labs, you have a number of vendors to
choose from, all of which have their own plusses.
I believe there are those around who have said that if you can afford to,
get 'em all. Which is very true. No matter who you go with, remember that
it is simply that groups' opinion of what is on the lab and what is worth
studying for. You can try any of them and pass your lab. Or you can try
any of them and fail your lab.
Concentrate on the learning and practice, practice, practice!
HelloComputers isn't around any more. Their assets were obtained by another
group though (better or worse...)
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
joshua lauer
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 8:30 PM
To: Tim; michaeljbrooks@gmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE -R&S Lab Books ?
IPEXPERT has a pretty balanced book, equal in all respects. I had the
version 6 labs and they were very good. Scott Morris wrote them so they are
pretty devious.
IE is good as well, especially for the services portion which to me they
seem strong on. I personally like the volume II advanced labs since they
focused on the new features and IPV6 more.
NMC is very great too, redistribution is strong here and you'll gain an
in-depth view of how things work, at least I did. I felt this book really
prepared me for the actual lab experience and had some really hard scenarios
that made me think above and beyond, I actually spent DAYS working on one
particular lab (number 24), As painful as it was, after I was finished I had
a very indepth understanding of PPOE/PPOA and many other things :) Another
thing I like about this book, it's constantly updated and the support forum
is outstanding. You really cant go wrong here.
I think these three books are excellent and I use each of them equally. I
personally started with the IPEXPERT books since they had some "mini-labs"
in them that helped warm me up for the multi-protocol ones. I then worked
into the NMC and IE books. IE has another Volume II advanced book out that's
not too bad, I wouldnt start there though..do the others first.
I also had the hellocomputers book, I would shy away from that one if you
come across it...it's not very good in my opionion, even if you could
understand the poor writing quality and logic errors.
If you pick up doyle's books and the practical studies there are labs in
those as well. Those are not too bad either, in fact they are very good,
these books should be a part of your library anyway so it wouldnt hurt to
pick them up.
HTH,
Josh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
To: <michaeljbrooks@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE -R&S Lab Books ?
> Michael,
>
> If you don't have a practice lab workbook, get one (or two).
>
> I used the IE workbook which is fantastic but I hear very good things
> about
> the NMC workbook as well.
>
> Having the Cisco Press books such as Routing TCP/IP vol 1 & 2 and others
> is
> essential for understanding these protocols but nothing helps you learn to
> apply theory like doing the labs in a practice labs workbook.
>
> HTH, Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> michaeljbrooks@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:23 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: CCIE -R&S Lab Books ?
>
> I have recently obtained the following equipment, in order to prepare for
> the CCIE-lab:
>
> 3x 2620XM's
> 1x 2610
> 1x 2611
> 1x 2651
> 1x 3660
> 1x 3745
> 1x 3550 emi
> 1x 3548
>
> What are the recommended books that I should use in order to prepare ?
> Also
> do I need any additional equipment, or is this enough ? Your suggestions
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
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