From: Daniel Kutchin (daniel@kutchin.com)
Date: Tue Sep 13 2005 - 20:30:46 GMT-3
Tim,
good suggestion.
However, shouldn't we do it in some smarter way?
Imagine if every well-intentioned guy should bombard Paul
with an e-mail - "How do I donate ...?"
What if we had a trailer under each GS mail remiding us to donate
to GS by clicking some given link...
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
To: <gladston@br.ibm.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Cc: "'Paul Borghese'" <pborghese@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:05 AM
Subject: RE: THANKS
Paul's email address is:
I think the ccie number's people were getting when I first joined Group
Study were in the 11xxx range so there has been about 3 or 4 thousand people
who have earned their number since I joined.
I don't know how many of those people used GS and benefited from this forum
but I'm sure most of those ccie's did.
If just 50% of those new ccie's sent Paul from 10 to 25 dollars in return
for all the benefit they received from being a member of GS, it would
probably cover most of Paul's expense of running this forum.
I'm hoping this becomes a new tradition. Wouldn't it be great if every GS
member that becomes a ccie with the help of GS sends Paul a small
contribution to offset his costs for GS?
In any case, Welcome again to the club. I hope your contributions to GS
will continue to be as excellent and as frequent as they were while you were
still in pursuit.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
gladston@br.ibm.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:20 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: THANKS
Thanks Very Much for the Words.
The number is 15119.
eheh, about the beer, please take a big virtual Beer or glass of Wine on
me for all Community.
Great idea Tim. I will find the Paul's PayPal account. Please feel free to
send me if you have it.
Please take my late CONGRATULATIONS!!! I missed your post. I knew you
would get it very soon considering your posts.
I will be around. The only difference is that I will be replying instead
of making questions, and my main goal will be keeping my answers with
minimal mistakes :)
Cordially,
------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladston
john matijevic <john.matijevic@gmail.com>
13/09/2005 08:15
Please respond to
john.matijevic@gmail.com
To
joshua lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com>
cc
Lee Donald <Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk>, Alaerte Gladston
Vidali/Brazil/IBM@IBMBR, ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject
Re: THANKS
Congradulations Gladston,
What is your ccie number? I'm not sure people are avoiding their putting
their numbers down, should't feel ashamed, still also waiting for ccie2be,
Tim's number also. Congradulations again, if you are in Miami, please get
in touch with me.
Sincerely,
John
On 9/13/05, joshua lauer <jslauer@hotmail.com> wrote:Agreed!
I think I would have about 50 beers not just one! After this process is
over, I have 1250.00 dedicated to a bar tab at the locat irish pub.
Hopefully soon I'll be able to cash this in :)
jl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Donald" < Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk>
To: <gladston@br.ibm.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 4:36 AM
Subject: RE: THANKS
> Good for you Gladston, where's your number? You worked very hard for it,
> show it off.
>
> Go and have a few beers now.........
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gladston@br.ibm.com [mailto:gladston@br.ibm.com]
> Sent: 13 September 2005 00:17
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: THANKS
>
> I would like to thank you to participate, in some way, on the
achievement
> of the CCIE R&S certification.
>
> Thanks to Groupstudy. Allow me to express how much I appreciate this
> group. It is a company on this difficult journey. I might apologize to
> submit so many questions, sometimes several of them just a day. I am
happy
> to receive answers for some of them. I thought about not mention names
> because I am afraid to be unfair, so many nice people out there helping
> us.
> But allow me to give special thanks to Chris, from Cisco, who helped me
> consistently on the last months.
> Thanks to Alexei, from NetMasterClass, that answered several questions
> last year, when I was using their material.
> Thanks to Arun Arumuganainar, Sean C, Simon Hart, San, Tim, Balaji, Bob
> Sinclair, Brian's from IE, Scott Morris, Marvin from CCBootCamp, Arun
> Baskaradoss, Ed Lui, Andrew Edwards, Kumara, Larry Letterman, Lee
Carter,
> Lee Donald, Mani Poopal, Thomwin Chen, Tony Schaffran, John Matijevic,
> Carlos Mendioroz, among so many other.
>
> Thanks to my wife, who was on my side during the three years on this
> effort and did not give up me, even when she had to give away free
movies
> tickets, because after 10 hours in front of the computer I could not
stay
> in front of anything else that required my eyes. I can not express in
> words how much you have helped me.
>
> Thanks to my soon who understood my dedication to this goal, and helped
me
> to relax on the weekends (the ones I was not studying).
>
> Thanks to my sister, to teach me visualization and meditation
techniques,
> and offering financial support when I was worried about how much I would
> still expend this year. Thanks to Jorge, the brother in law, for the
funny
> moments.
>
> Thanks to doctor Lie, doctor Amelia and doctor Lino. You were angels
> helping me keep the health.
>
> Thanks to my last manager Esper for trusting me. It was an honor to work
> with you. I really appreciate your organization, education and capacity
of
> analysis. Thanks.
>
> Thanks to my provisory manager, Antonio Wilson. I worked with you just a
> few months and you bring me encouraging words that helped me keep strong
> on the path.
>
> Thanks to my new manager, Regina. For you patience and trust and help me
> to mix the daily works with the lab time.
>
> Thanks to the managers responsible for the certification on my company
for
> the trust and financial help.
>
> Thanks a lot to Wilson Medio, that always let me use the company lab.
>
> Thanks to Anderson, from Nec, for sharing your organized way to see the
> technology.
>
> Many thanks Leornardo for sharing your logical view of the CCIE process
> and words of inspiration. One day working with you was enough to help me
> stay calm (as possible) asking the LORD for serenity on the day of the
> lab.
>
> Thanks to Wilson, a CCIE that I spend just few days but helped me to
keep
> in mind the importance of the Strategy. On his words: ?the feeling that
> the exam is not fair is because we study so much and do not get it; the
> cause is that no matter how much you study, the exam is also strategy?.
>
> Thanks to Jay, from Expert-labs, which have a wonderful rack rental
> service.
> Also thanks to Ccie-rack, which I used.
>
> Thanks Marco, for the opportunity to be the instructor of the
> Troubleshooting course, which helped me with the expenses of the CCIE
> Bootcamp.
>
> Josi, thanks to took me as a CCNA instructor back into 2000 year, for
the
> CCNP course and to trust my work.
>
> Thanks Reginaldo, for your words when you thought I had passed.
>
> Thanks to Maurilio. I have wanted to have you as a Proctor for a while.
> Elaine, thanks to be friendly all the times the candidates seat there.
>
> Thanks Mr Bruce Caslow, to phone me last year and spend more than one
hour
> with advices. I really appreciated that. Also thanks to the lovely Indy
> Teller.
>
> Thanks Mr Santana, for your weekly kindly words that bring us serenity
and
> faith.
>
> Vernon, thanks for the words. Keep on it. You are getting it.
>
> Dianna and Ed, a lovely couple, thanks to receive me at your adorable
> house on the weekend after the Bootcamp in NY, allowing me to forget the
> CCIE preparation for a while.
>
> THANKS TO LORD CHRIST. Please help me to keep on your path and serve
your
> cause.
>
> As it is common on Groupstudy, let me do what I have requested several
> times to the candidates that passed: advices.
> Just remembering, it works a different way for each person, being the
> process itself a self discovering work.
> If you are starting the process, please do not take these words.
Remember
> the history of the guy that did a job because did not know that it was
> difficult.
> With that in mind, I would recommend:
> -Stay on the PRESENT: Study to learn, instead of studying to pass.
Because
> it helps to get small pleasures on the process of learning itself,
instead
> of just get frustration of failing.
> -Study using the devices and IOS current used the lab. Do not spend your
> time using older IOS versions or routers. Beside as much as I used and
> appreciate the 2500 series, forget them (well, they are still good for
> backbone routers). Renting a lab when your own lab is not up-to-date is
a
> great deal.
> -Have almost all the books recommended by Cisco. This is my list:
> Doyle I and II
> Solie I and II
> QoS by Wendell
> QoS by Vegesna
> Frame Relay by Chin
> Security by Deal
> Catalyst QoS by Flannagan
> Switching by Barnes
> Switching by Clark
> Multicast by Williamson
> BGP by Halabi
> IPv6 by Desmeules
> CCIE Labs by Maurilio
> Troubleshooting, by Shamim
> OSPF, by Parkhurst
> Cisco Cookbook
> -You should be familiar even with the bugs, which can occur during the
> lab. I am not breaking the NDA saying that it happened three times with
> me: the last time it took me just few minutes to recognize it, tell the
> Proctor and reload the router; on the first time I did not identify it
at
> all; the second time it took me around 30 minutes. What I want to say
is:
> practice enough to be used with the bugs of the IOS version used on the
> lab, so if you run into some of them, they are just one more detail,
> instead of surprising you.
> -Saying it again, strategy is a key point. And what is strategy?
Basically
> it is to recognize that the question will take you 30 minutes that you
do
> not have, so use the time to recheck other work.
> -CHECK the results. This is a key point. Learn during your training how
to
> check the results of every feature.
> -Make your all scenarios. Add features to them, make them big, but
similar
> to the structure you have on your real lab. Treat it as a network that
> must be stable and reliable. That means that when you return to it one
> week later, after pasting the saved configuration the connectivity and
> services like HSRP, IRDP, Security features, QoS features, NTP and so on
> should be working like a clock.
> -WorkBooks: they are all great.
> --I heavily used NetMasterClass last year. But as you have heard, it
> is a lot more complicate that the lab. I would say that it is necessary
to
> make the labs twice;
> --InternetworkExpert: I studied some lab with a workmate. They have a
> consistent material
> --IPExpert: good, but I can not say much; although I bought it I did
> not do the labs.
> -Bootcamps: if I had the money and time, I would do them all:
> CyscoExperts, InternetworkExpert, NetMasterClass and IPExpert
> -To help keep motivated, remember that we study technology instead of
just
> a specific company product, which is useful to understand many products
on
> the market.
> -Forget about the number of attempts. This test has nothing to do with
our
> previous experience. It was funny when a workmate said: ?I was so
> frustrated; I never failed an exam on my life??. It was funny because I
> felt the same way. Remember that the structure is very different from a
> regular exam. There is practically no feedback pointing what went wrong,
> the exam is extremely expensive, which makes the pressure go to the sky,
> there is not a second day to review what just come as a solution to our
> mind. Considering that, no number of attempts would be big, if you are
> still learning. I am trying to be honest here, and in fact repeating
what
> one guy told me using different words, about a year ago, and now I can
> understand better what he said. The guy was Flannagan (author of
Catalyst
> QoS). Thanks.
> -As we stay so many time involved with this goal, is takes a level of
> importance on our life that may not help. Keep in mind that this is just
> one of many goals on our life (past and future), and there are lot of
more
> important things that you already have, as your family, your health, you
> spirituality, your capacity to choose and do infinity options.
> -Balance the lab practice and theory. Do not study without a lab and do
> not lab without available books and access to the Doc CD. They
complement
> each other.
> -Do not go for the lab just to test it. You surely will fail. (Oh, that
is
> not valid if you are submitted to the technologies present on the lab on
a
> regular basis, which improve the chances of passing it first way, and
> there is no other way to discover it besides going for the lab). First
do
> many labs testing the IOS and platform present on the lab. I would say
the
> number 400 hours is a good one.
> -After testing ways to study to accomplish it, you will find your way.
> -Soft Yoga, Tai-Chi-Chuan and Meditation are wonderful tools to keep the
> health and low stress.
> -Doing the lab can be similar to a driver who takes a new path. He can
> easily loose the faster road and take more time than he thought it would
> be necessary to arrive on the destination. On the day of the lab, after
> your meditation, pray asking for serenity and protection, so you can
make
> the right decisions. Don?t pray to answer correctly what you have not
> studied :)
>
> Do not use the words ?I will be a CCIE? (with all due respect to the
> Cciesecrets Jim?s e-book, which I appreciated). Use the words ?I am
> becoming a CCIE?. Because it is true, you become a CCIE on the present,
as
> a process, during the days we spend training and discovering new ways to
> test the configuration, verifying points that we really did not know
that
> well, learning the behavior of the IOS (even the bugs), using all books
> available to go deep on the technology, being pleasure to see how many
> good authors are out there to help us.
>
> Although we found many bugs on this journey going deep on the technology
> (that make us crazy adding difficulties to the process), Cisco still is
> one of the most stable and logical platform I have worked with for the
> last several years. And I mean companies like Ericson, Synoptics,
Hughes,
> Nec and Newbridge.
> The documentation is by far the best and accessible on the market, and
the
> small mistakes are just part of the great work.
>
> A little history of my certification:
> I am involved with the CCIE lab for the last two years (one year for the
> writing). Considering the beginning, Cisco certification brings me back
to
> 2000, when I bought my first certification book, by Wendell, at that
nice
> bookstore in the World Trade Center (I think second floor). CCNA and the
> four CCNP tests were like a flash. Then, CCIE was like a wall in front
of
> me. A 100 feet wall, while I am about 6 feet tall. The support of the
> LORD, Family, Managers, Workmates, Groupstudy, Authors and so many
helped
> me to find a way to go over it. Thanks.
>
> Well, sorry to bother you with so many words.
> Good Luck!! Keep on the Road!!
>
>
> Cordially
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Gladston
>
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