RE: frame-relay inverse arp

From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Wed Aug 03 2005 - 14:38:21 GMT-3


Shanky,

Comments inline:

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***********************************
 *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
 ***********************************
 interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
 !
 interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
 
Why is InArp disabled for the above scenario ? We never disabled it on the Phy. S0/0 and not on the Sub-if either ? Is it because Inverse Arp is disabled by default for P2P I/Fs ?
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This is a point-to-point subinterface so no mappings are required. Also it doesn't matter if inverse-ARP was disabled under the physical interface since the subinterfaces will not inherit that command from the physical interface.

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***********************************
 *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
 ***********************************

 interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
 !
 interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
  no frame-relay inverse-arp
 
In the above scenario, inverse arp has been disabled on the Sub-If, and we are using
frame-relay interface-dlci 102 ... so how does the router map the remote end IP Address to the local DLCI ?
 
As per my understanding, frame-relay interface-dlci # uses inverse arp for mapping of remote IP address to the local DLCI, but if we disable inverse-arp as shown above and dont use the map commands , how does the mapping happen ?
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The example was just showing you the state of inverse-ARP it wasn't showing you how to reach a remote router.

HTH,

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
 
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________________________________________
From: Shanky [mailto:shankyz@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 3:55 AM
To: Brian Dennis
Cc: Thomwin Chen; Desmond Ong; lab
Subject: Re: frame-relay inverse arp

Hi Brian,
 
***********************************
 *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
 ***********************************
 interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
 !
 interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
 
Why is InArp disabled for the above scenario ? We never disabled it on the Phy. S0/0 and not on the Sub-if either ? Is it because Inverse Arp is disabled by default for P2P I/Fs ?
 
further for
 ***********************************
 *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
 ***********************************

 interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
 !
 interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
  no frame-relay inverse-arp
 
In the above scenario, inverse arp has been disabled on the Sub-If, and we are using
frame-relay interface-dlci 102 ... so how does the router map the remote end IP Address to the local DLCI ?
 
As per my understanding, frame-relay interface-dlci # uses inverse arp for mapping of remote IP address to the local DLCI, but if we disable inverse-arp as shown above and dont use the map commands , how does the mapping happen ?
 
TIA
 
Shanky
 

 
On 8/3/05, Brian Dennis <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com> wrote:
Thomwin,
       You do not need to disable inverse-ARP on the physical
interfaces if you are using only subinterfaces. This is because the "no
frame-relay inverse-arp" command is not inherited by subinterfaces.

       Here are some examples of when inverse-ARP is enabled or disable
based on the configuration itself or based on the use of the "no
frame-relay inverse-arp" command.

**********************************
*** InARP Enabled for DLCI 102 ***
**********************************
interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102

**********************************
*** InARP Enabled for DLCI 102 ***
**********************************
interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
  no frame-relay inverse-arp
!
interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102

***********************************
*** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
***********************************

interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
  no frame-relay inverse-arp

*****************************************
*** InARP Disabled for IP on DLCI 102 ***
*****************************************
interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102
  no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 102

*****************************************
*** InARP Disabled for IP on DLCI 102 ***
*****************************************
interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 102 broadcast

***********************************
*** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
***********************************
interface Serial0/0
  no ip address
  encapsulation frame-relay
!
interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
  frame-relay interface-dlci 102

       Also it's a myth (aka urban legend ;-) that the "no arp
frame-relay" command stops the replies to inverse-ARP. It doesn't.

HTH,

Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com

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http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
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Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Thomwin Chen
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:45 PM
To: Desmond Ong; 'lab'
Subject: Re: frame-relay inverse arp

Hi Desmond,

you can test it by using a simple command :
debug frame-relay packet and see why most workbooks suggest no
frame-relay inverse-arp configured on physical FR interface.

probably, you will also need this to know : no arp frame-relay

Rgds,
Thomwin

Desmond Ong <desmond.gk@netstarnetworks.com> wrote:
hi there,

anyone can enlighten me on the following?

when to use "no frame-relay inverse arp" and when to specifically use
"no
frame-relay inverse arp ip " ???

Thanks!

Regards,
Des



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