RE: frame-relay inverse arp

From: Brian McGahan (bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Wed Aug 03 2005 - 11:04:57 GMT-3


        Frame-relay inverse-arp is only enabled if you have a supported
protocol configured on that interface. In Brian's example there were no
IPv4 addresses on the main interface, hence no need to disable InARP.

        Also be sure to make the distinction between LMI functionality
and Inverse-ARP. Any Frame Relay question that says to "not learn any
unused DLCIs" is incorrect. Learning circuit information is a function
of LMI and does not have anything to do with layer 3 to layer 2
resolution. If you mean not to form dynamic mappings over certain
circuits then yes, disabling InARP would come into play.

HTH,

Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Shanky
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:58 AM
> To: Schulz, Dave
> Cc: Brian Dennis; nobody@groupstudy.com; Thomwin Chen; Desmond Ong;
lab
> Subject: Re: frame-relay inverse arp
>
> Hi Dave,
> IMHO it should be required to disable the inverse-arp on Phy I/Fs as
all
> unused DLCIs will get assigned to the Phy. I/F with an addr of
> 0.0.0.0<http://0.0.0.0>,
> to avoid it we will have to disable inverse-arp on the Phy I/F.
> Shanky
>
> On 8/3/05, Schulz, Dave <DSchulz@dpsciences.com> wrote:
> >
> > Brian -
> >
> > It appears that the last examples have Inarp active, but I must be
> missing
> > something. There is not a "no frame inverse" command on those two.
Also,
> > if
> > you are using subinterfaces and the question wants you to not learn
any
> > unused
> > DLCIs, then is it enough to use the "no frame inverse" on only the
> > subinterfaces? Or, should you insure that you have it on the main
> > interface
> > also?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > To: Thomwin Chen; Desmond Ong; lab
> > Sent: 8/3/2005 12:15 AM
> > Subject: RE: frame-relay inverse arp
> >
> > Thomwin,
> > You do not need to disable inverse-ARP on the physical
> > interfaces if you are using only subinterfaces. This is because the
"no
> > frame-relay inverse-arp" command is not inherited by subinterfaces.
> >
> > Here are some examples of when inverse-ARP is enabled or disable
> > based on the configuration itself or based on the use of the "no
> > frame-relay inverse-arp" command.
> >
> > **********************************
> > *** InARP Enabled for DLCI 102 ***
> > **********************************
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> >
> > **********************************
> > *** InARP Enabled for DLCI 102 ***
> > **********************************
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > no frame-relay inverse-arp
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> >
> > ***********************************
> > *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
> > ***********************************
> >
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> > no frame-relay inverse-arp
> >
> > *****************************************
> > *** InARP Disabled for IP on DLCI 102 ***
> > *****************************************
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> > no frame-relay inverse-arp IP 102
> >
> > *****************************************
> > *** InARP Disabled for IP on DLCI 102 ***
> > *****************************************
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 multipoint
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay map ip 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 102 broadcast
> >
> > ***********************************
> > *** InARP Disabled for DLCI 102 ***
> > ***********************************
> > interface Serial0/0
> > no ip address
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > !
> > interface Serial0/0.1 point-to-point
> > ip address 10.1.1.1 <http://10.1.1.1> 255.255.255.0
> <http://255.255.255.0>
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> >
> >
> > Also it's a myth (aka urban legend ;-) that the "no arp
> > frame-relay" command stops the replies to inverse-ARP. It doesn't.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> > Thomwin Chen
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 8:45 PM
> > To: Desmond Ong; 'lab'
> > Subject: Re: frame-relay inverse arp
> >
> > Hi Desmond,
> >
> > you can test it by using a simple command :
> > debug frame-relay packet and see why most workbooks suggest no
> > frame-relay inverse-arp configured on physical FR interface.
> >
> > probably, you will also need this to know : no arp frame-relay
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Thomwin
> >
> > Desmond Ong <desmond.gk@netstarnetworks.com> wrote:
> > hi there,
> >
> > anyone can enlighten me on the following?
> >
> > when to use "no frame-relay inverse arp" and when to specifically
use
> > "no
> > frame-relay inverse arp ip " ???
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Regards,
> > Des
> >
> >



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