From: Amit Jain (netsteps@rediffmail.com)
Date: Fri Jul 22 2005 - 05:48:29 GMT-3
Lee
Out of all bad things that must have happened with you, one good thing you
did was to give your feedback. By reading all the success stories many of us
who will be appearing for first attempt may tend to think that lab is not
all that complex and hard to crack. After reading a story such as yours, we
need to make sure within ourselves that the measures we take to judge our
rediness, should be concrete and full-proof to save repeated waste of time,
effort and money.
Amit jain
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arun Arumuganainar" <aarumuga@hotmail.com>
To: "De Witt, Duane" <duane.dewitt@siemens.com>; "Lee Donald"
<Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk>; "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: I Failed for the 2nd time yesterday in Brussels, has the R&S
lab got more tricky??
> In such a case you can apply for re-valuation !!! I think it cost another
> 250 Bucks but there are incidences where in candidates have actually
passed
> after this process .
>
> I remember some body telling me about the evaluation processes . It will
go
> on like this .
>
> First , A script will be running . If the script returns a score which is
> very close to 80 ( Band of 65 to 100 ) . Then Manual evaluation will be
> done by the proctor .
>
> Note : Even when score is say 90 or 100 will mandate manual evaluation .
>
> Also all our conversation are store is server . While doing evaluation
those
> configuration are uploaded on the routers and script will running on it
!!!
> So given the system of evaluation we need to do the following before we
> leave the lab .
>
> 1) Save all the configuration .
> 2) Reload all the router and check still the features are working as given
> in the question sheet .
>
> These two steps will prepare us for script evaluation .
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Arun
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "De Witt, Duane" <duane.dewitt@siemens.com>
> To: "Lee Donald" <Lee.Donald@t-systems.co.uk>; "Group Study"
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:17 PM
> Subject: RE: I Failed for the 2nd time yesterday in Brussels, has the R&S
> lab got more tricky??
>
>
> > I had the same experience with my BGP. I had character for character
> > what they asked for and still didn't get the points. This makes me
> > believe that the proctors don't actually look at the output but just run
> > it through the script and leave it at that.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Lee Donald
> > Sent: 21 July 2005 02:56 PM
> > To: 'Group Study'
> > Subject: I Failed for the 2nd time yesterday in Brussels, has the R&S
> > lab got more tricky??
> >
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > I failed for the 2nd time yesterday in Brussels after a mammoth effort
> > of
> > studying and courses etc.
> > When I walked out the door I was fairly sure I'd passed (which makes it
> > even
> > worse) but what I can't understand is their marking, probably won't ever
> > understand it.
> >
> > Certain sections like my BGP were spot on and running like a brand new
> > BMW (
> > so I thought) they even gave you screen outputs of what your "show ip
> > bgp "
> > should look like, well mine looked like that but I got 39%.
> >
> > I don't know whether their testing you to see if you know and can
> > configure
> > the technology, or trying to trip you up with Cryptic questions that are
> > designed to mislead you.
> >
> > Any Comments, sorry having a Hate Cisco day.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Lee.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ccie2be [mailto:ccie2be@nyc.rr.com]
> > Sent: 21 July 2005 12:48
> > To: 'Shanky'; 'Group Study'
> > Subject: RE: OSPF: Remember old DR 2.1.1.10 (id) ... why ?
> >
> > Shanky,
> >
> > I don't know if this answers your question directly but I can tell you
> > this.
> >
> >
> > Ospf doesn't use preemption in the election of the DR and BDR. Because
> > of
> > this ospf is more stable on a broadcast segment. Once a DR is elected,
> > that
> > router will remain as the DR even if another router on the same segment
> > comes on line with a higher priority.
> >
> > This being the case, I guess that its necessary for a non-Dr and non-BDR
> > router to remember who the DR and BDR were if it were to go down so that
> > when it comes back up it knows with which routers to re-establish
> > adjacencies with.
> >
> > As far as the lab goes, I don't think this detail is that important.
> > What's
> > really important is that you're aware of this non-preempt behavior so
> > that
> > when you configure ospf on a broadcast or nbma segment, you know to set
> > the
> > priority to 0 on routers which should not become the DR or BDR before
> > bringing the router up on the segment.
> >
> > HTH, Tim
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Shanky
> > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:20 AM
> > To: Group Study
> > Subject: OSPF: Remember old DR 2.1.1.10 (id) ... why ?
> >
> > Hi,
> > I got the foll output with debug ip ospf adj when I shut the serial to
> > FR
> > switch down on the spoke in NBMA mode. Why does the router remember who
> > the
> > old DR was as shown in the output ? I mean, once new DR is selected,
> > even if
> > the old DR comes back online (Say after a crash), it doesnt affect.
> > **Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: Remember old DR 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10>
> > (id)
> > ... why does the router remember the old DR?*
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Interface Serial0/0 going Down
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: 1.1.1.1 <http://1.1.1.1> address
> > 1.1.1.1<http://1.1.1.1>on Serial0/0 is dead, state
> > DOWN
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface Serial0/0
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: DR/BDR election on Serial0/0
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Elect BDR 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Elect DR 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Elect BDR 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.795: OSPF: Elect DR 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: DR: 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10> (Id) BDR: none
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10> address
> > 1.1.1.2<http://1.1.1.2>on Serial0/0 is dead, state
> > DOWN
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: %OSPF-5-ADJCHG: Process 1, Nbr
> > 2.1.1.10<http://2.1.1.10>on Serial0/0 from
> > FULL to DOWN, Neighbor Down: Interface down or detached
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: Neighbor change Event on interface Serial0/0
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: DR/BDR election on Serial0/0
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: Elect BDR 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: Elect DR 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0>
> > *Mar 1 16:15:15.799: DR: none BDR: none
> > **Mar 1 16:15:15.799: OSPF: Remember old DR 2.1.1.10 <http://2.1.1.10>
> > (id)*
> >
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