From: Anthony Sequeira (terry.francona@gmail.com)
Date: Sun Jun 26 2005 - 13:16:05 GMT-3
While I think this thread is totally useless - I do have something I
am compelled to add -
REMEMBER EVERYONE:
Never SPID into the wind!
On 6/26/05, ccie2be <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com> wrote:
> Mike,
>
> I have to agree with you 100%.
>
> What makes Scott Morris, Andrew Bruce Caslow, Bob Sinclair, Marvin Greenlee,
> the Brian's, Tom Lijnse and many others here on GS so exceptional isn't the
> great depth of their knowledge in and of itself as considerable as it may be
> but rather their generosity in being willing to share that knowledge with
> the rest of us.
>
> When you think of the world's 100 or 1000 greatest people, how many of them
> were experts in Networking?
>
> I doubt that I would make it onto anyone's list of greatest people for
> anything but if I had a choice, I would much rather be considered great for
> being a great human being than being a great networking expert. I don't
> even aspire to be a great networker but every day I aspire to be a great
> person (as well as a ccie).
>
> And, as extensive and considerable is the knowledge of those mentioned
> above, there isn't one person whose response to a question I haven't
> questioned or challenged at some time. Most of the time, it was because I
> didn't fully understand their answer or I wanted to explore a related issue
> but every now and then it turned out that the initial response was
> incorrect.
>
> But, not once have any of those guru's belittled me for my follow up
> questions even when I didn't fully think through my question before asking
> it.
>
> I respect the accomplishment of each person whose dedication and ability
> have enabled them to earn a ccie but I truly admire those people who
> selflessly contribute to the betterment of others.
>
> Getting back to John's original question, I don't know if answering his
> question would be an NDA violation or not. But, either way, it's clear John
> had a concern about ISDN.
>
> I wrote John and told not to be concerned about what type of switch is used
> because that's not the real issue and that won't matter as long as he knows
> how to deal with configuring ISDN regardless of the switch type. The real
> issue is whether or not spid's need to be configured and as long as John and
> everyone else knows when and how to configure spids, then the NDA hasn't
> been violated and the real concern is addressed.
>
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> mikenoc@mindspring.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:35 AM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>
> John started it ? I read the post to and to me it just seemed that John was
> asking a question. And disagreed with Scott about wether the answer would
> break NDA. Which is fine no worries if Scott doesnt want to answer the
> question then he doesnt have to. The two things I did not like about your
> post was, one you made it sound like Scott Morris is the man if he tells you
> something wether or not you agree with it he is right so you do not even
> have the authority to question it. And two John really did not attack you
> and you made a coment like I dont really care if you got 100% on your ISDN I
> already have my number so take that. Group study is all about people who are
> studying for the CCIE who have questions and people who answer these
> questions to help them along. To me it seemed that you came off as you where
> bragging beacuse you have your CCIE and throwing it in John's face beacuse
> he doesnt have it yet. And that kind of attitude is not what Group Study is
> about. The most ta!
> lented Network Engineers I have ever known do not have a CCIE. Also I have
> worked with CCIE's who I think are not talented at all. If you have your
> CCIE Ricky more power to you im glad for you but that is not something that
> makes you better than John or anyone else. All of us in this industry are
> constantly learning and there will always be someone who knows something
> more than you. The point is we need to help each out not slam someone for
> trying to learn.
>
> Mike F.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ricky <rickycool@gmail.com>
> Sent: Jun 26, 2005 2:07 AM
> To: mikenoc@mindspring.com
> Subject: Re: isdn in san jose
>
> Hi,
> My sincere apologies to what happened yesterday. I was having a bad day.
> But if you read the posts you should know John started it. My apologies
> again.
> Ricky
>
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