From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Jun 13 2005 - 13:42:32 GMT-3
I've never really heard cyscoexperts plugged so thanks for the info...I've
heard of them but have never really been interested enough to look at them.
I did attend netmasterclass (both of them) and they were excellent and
highly recommended.
regards,
josh
JOSHUA LAUER
----- Original Message -----
From: <atolstykh@atfam.com>
To: <netsteps@rediffmail.com>; <dansheedy@gmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE#14715 CyscoExperts
> Amit,
>
> Not that many people will be able to complete current CXP practice labs on
> their own. Those who can don't really need any training - they can go and
> claim their number. Current labs are usually done in 3 days each x 12
> hours a
> day. Instructors are right there for you - when you get stuck (I did get
> stuck
> on almost every single question) - instructor takes you to a drawing board
> and
> explains the concept. These explanations are now burned in my mind (Thanks
> Bacho!). I don't see any value in taking a mock lab - if the lab is too
> hard,
> then you become discouraged and you get a headache and you retain nothing.
> If
> the lab is too easy - then it does not make any sense to take it in the
> first
> place. And after the lab is over they will only spend an hour with you -
> one
> hour is nothing.
>
> This is what worked for me - instructor constantly checks your progress as
> you
> work through the lab. You get the concept right the first time. If
> something
> is incorrect he will catch and correct it. After the lab is done - you sit
> down with your instructor and check/analyze the solution (usually takes
> about
> 3 hours).
>
> Mock lab is better than nothing, but its not a substitution for a quality
> instructor led lab training (imho)
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Amit Jain [mailto:netsteps@rediffmail.com]
> Sent: Mon 6/13/2005 3:01 AM
> To: Daniel Sheedy; Andrew Tolstykh
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE#14715 CyscoExperts
>
>
>
> Thanks Dan.....I dont see that they have online one on one seesions,
> Cyscoexpert would do great if they start that just like IE has mock lab
> workshop and grading with brian's, all done online.
>
> Amit
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Sheedy" <dansheedy@gmail.com>
> To: <atolstykh@atfam.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE#14715 CyscoExperts
>
>
>> Hi Amit,
>> Don't wait till they open a branch in your country! :)
>> I'm currently living in Austria and heard a lot of good things about
>> them,
>> so much so that I fly to Chicago and spent a week with them!
>> I just wish I had done that at the start of my training, rather than
>> waiting. They really helped to put the edge on my training and helped me
> get
>> my head around some of the technology that I thought I already knew
>> properly. If you can afford it, I would definately recommend spending
>> some
>> time with them. Even if it is for the benefit of your future career.
>> Dan
>> Congrats..Andrew..Looks like Cyscoexperts should open a branch in my
>> country
>> too :-)
>>
>> Amit
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <atolstykh@atfam.com>
>> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 4:38 AM
>> Subject: CCIE#14715 CyscoExperts
>>
>>
>> > I passed on my first try last Tuesday in RTP. Compared to pretty much
>> > any CXP study lab the real test was not that hard. I was able to
>> > complete mine by the lunch time.
>> >
>> > Following the advice of my instructors I did not leave earlier and
>> > instead spent the rest of the day double/triple checking everything.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I have to thank all CyscoExperts instructors - Bacho, Mitch, Naren, Tom
>> > and Bahram. Thank you for doing such a great job - I enjoyed learning
>> > from the best.
>> >
>> > There is not a single chance that I could have done it without your
>> > guidance. You taught me how to decipher questions, verify my solutions
>> > and detect complex hidden issues.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It was the best feeling when after 15 minutes into the lab I realized,
>> > that I know every single concept in and out and that I am definitely
>> > going to get my number on the first try.
>> >
>> > To quote Bahram - "peace of cake :-)"
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best of luck to all CCIE candidates! I hope to write another success
>> > email when I am done with the CCIE Security track.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Andrew Tolstykh
>> >
>> > CCIE#14715
>> >
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