From: Michael Doherty (z0rand3r@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 24 2005 - 17:57:56 GMT-3
From: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/employers/index.html
"Cisco limits the recruiting of CCIEs from one partner to another
Because of their expert skills and experience, CCIEs are in demand among
Cisco's channel partners. To limit the adverse impact of losing a key staff
member, Cisco's Gold and Silver Channel Partner Program sets policy
regarding hiring CCIEs away from other Cisco Channel Partners. In general,
the program rules prevent a reseller who hires a CCIE away from another
reseller, from using that CCIE to qualify for Gold or Silver status for a
period of 12 months. More information can be found in the Gold and Silver
Program Policy Document in Appendix D, Section 4 "CCIE Policies" or by
contacting Partner Support."
From Gold/Silver Program Policy Document:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/tools/cpapp/audit_doc.pdf
"CCIE Policies
Hiring and Terminating
Purpose: Policy regarding loss of a CCIE and hiring a CCIE from another
Cisco-certified or specialized partner.
Losing Partner:
If the loss of a CCIE takes a certified partner below the number of CCIEs
required for certification, partner is to notify Cisco of its non-compliance
within 30 days. Upon receipt of such notice, partner may qualify for an
extension of six months to replace the CCIE in order to avoid
de-certification. A partner who voluntarily terminates the employment of a
CCIE may not qualify for the time extension. During the extension period,
the partner will retain its certification as long as all other certification
requirements are met.
If a partner does not notify Cisco of its non-compliance with the CCIE
requirement within 30 days and Cisco identifies the deficiency, the partner
may be given an extension of 60 days to replace the CCIE in order to avoid
de-certification. This extension period will begin upon Cisco's
notification to the partner of non-compliance.
Gaining Partner:
If a partner hires a CCIE away from another Cisco certified or specialized
partner, Cisco will not count this individual toward certification or
specialization for the hiring partner for a period of 12 months from the
date of hire. This rule does not apply if a Cisco certified or specialized
partner terminated the CCIE. In this case, Cisco will require documention
from the partner that terminated the CCIE."
HTH
Mike
>From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
>Reply-To: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
>To: Sean C <Upp_and_Upp@hotmail.com>
>CC: Lee Gillespie <gillespie_ccie@yahoo.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: Re: CCIE Company registration
>Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 12:35:48 -0800 (PST)
>
>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Sean C wrote:
>
> > Just to expand this a little because I may be in a similar situation (IF
>I
> > ever pass the lab), the way I understand it, the current company has to
>show
> > that they paid for your training as well as your lab in order to claim
>your
> > number. If you can prove that you sponsored your own training (ie -
>paid
> > for any classes and/or books) and paid for passed and also including any
> > failed lab attempts, then your current company can't use your number for
> > their partnership requirements. Again, I'm admittedly ignorant on this
> > subject but am curious myself.
>
>I have not seen this in any of Cisco's documentation. My understanding
>of the rules based on past emails (it's been a while) is that if your
>CCIE number is being used by a Cisco partner for qualification requirements
>and you leave, the old partner has six months to replace you without losing
>their status, and the new partner can't use your number in their CCIE count
>for some time (six months? a year?) unless the old partner "releases" it.
>
>I have never seen anything from Cisco that addresses the issue of who
>paid for the training and lab attempt(s). Some employment contracts may
>cover that type of thing, if the employer wants to ensure that they don't
>pay for your training only to have you jump ship, bit I don't think Cisco
>wants to know or cares. They would be smart not to, as it would be very
>likely to generate into a he-said-she-said type of thing.
>
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