From: Anthony Sequeira (terry.francona@gmail.com)
Date: Thu Mar 03 2005 - 00:35:34 GMT-3
To redraw or not to redraw - that is certainly a great question and as
we have learned - there are different approaches here that all seem to
work.
One absolute I would like to correct in this thread, however.....
At RTP - I was able to bring the following into the lab no problem:
1) Water
2) Apple and Banana
3) My own colored pencils
4) Rabbits Foot (I have since destroyed it because it was useless).
Be sure to leave the Cell Phone in the rental car.
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 21:00:26 -0500, Jongsoo.Kim@intelsat.com
<Jongsoo.Kim@intelsat.com> wrote:
> In my expereince, it was always better to redraw BGP topology, which helps a
> lot to figure out route-refector, confederation, as path calculation, etc.
> But you can just sketch BGP drawing while reading the question.( 1 min max)
>
> Also, it is better to write a simple table showing the relation among vlan
> names, vlans, two Cat's, and router interface, which helps to figure out
> vlans crossing between two cat's. If I keep looking vlan on diagram 1 per
> every question to make sure configuring correct router's interface, it is
> inefficient and gives me a headache later afternoon.( 5 min max)
>
> Other than that, I agree with Chuck. No need to redraw IGP or F/R.
>
> Only if you have multi-exit IGP redistribution, it will help to find routing
> loop issue if you just draw some simple circle with type of IGP protoocl.( 2
> min max) At least to me, it really makes me tired to figure out multi-exit
> IGP redistribution issue based on original diagram.
>
> Never spend a lot of time on redrawing.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> Regrads
>
> Jongsoo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Church, Chuck [mailto:cchurch@netcogov.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 8:31 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Redrawing the Diagram.
>
> Granted it's been over 3 years since I visited the lab, but is
> re-drawing the diagrams really necessary? The logical and physical
> diagrams Cisco provided seemed to be sufficient. With the 3550 being in
> there now with both routing and switching capabilities, I suppose it's
> function in the network can get hard to comprehend without an additional
> diagram. But that's just one device, not the whole network. You can
> take the maps out of the lab book and place them against the wall in the
> cube during the lab. That worked for me...
>
> Chuck Church
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Donny mateo Tandase
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 7:45 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Redrawing the Diagram.
>
> Never use this approach.
>
> If you're accustomed to the lab scenario on book (practical studies) and
> the other workbook training material, you should not need this. This is
> my personal view.
>
> Putting all the information into single diagram is great idea provided
> that you are able to absorb the info on the bulk manner. Mine work on
> sub-division better. That way I know when my problem is routing, I'll
> just open the routing diagram and check it out.
>
> Cheers, Donny
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ralph [mailto:Mandela@myrealbox.com]
> > Sent: 02 March 2005 16:13
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Redrawing the Diagram.
> >
> >
> > Hey Guys:
> >
> > I have read a lot in this forum about how important it is to redraw
> the
> > topology during the Lab exam. I really believe this to be a good thing
> to
> > do; As the saying goes, "A picture is worth more than a thousand
> words".
> > My question is this: Does Cisco provide all the necessary tools to
> produce
> > a good diagram? like color pencils, and big size drawing papers or I
> have
> > to bring mine to the exam.
> >
> > R
> >
> >
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