From: eugeneonline (eugeneonline@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Mar 01 2005 - 05:43:37 GMT-3
Thanks Dillon,
I was actually looking for study material, maybe pointers to new sections in the Doc CD etc....
Eugene
Dillon Yang <gzdillon@hotmail.com> wrote:
There is no way to get IOS without violation Cisco's copyright. Cisco do not agree to offer free IOS for our home lab even we are encouraged to buy heaps of books and pay heaps of bucks to Cisco, because CCIE@cisco.com keeps silent to my free IOS request email. I think Cisco will see that each of us, thousands of CCIE candidates, purchase a license for each one of our lab racks.
:o)
I think there is no one will offer your any message for the Cisco NDA in GroupStudy. You can get it somewhere like the passed candidates.
HTH
dillon
----- Original Message -----
From: "eugeneonline"
To:
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 12:31 AM
Subject: IPV6 and 12.2T Information
> Hello everyone,
>
> I've been out of the loop for a little while, and need to upgrade my
> lab study material for IPV6 and 12.2T, any advice on where to find good
> material? (ideally free)
>
> Regards,
>
> Eugene
>
>
> Nazgulero
wrote:Hello,
>
> nice one, Hyungseog. I happen to work with people in Kuala Lumpur a lot,
> highly motivated, highly knowledgeable. If my company would outsource my job
> to a place over there I would definitely not be able to do or say anything
> it. I am from Germany, and my fellow countrymen tend to believe that
> Mercedes is the best car in the world. You can give me a Toyota or Honda
> anytime and I4d drive away with it, not even looking back at the Mercedes.
> Now if I tell them that it makes them very mad ! I think a lot of that has
> to do with stereotypes, but the world has become so small that most of those
> stereotypes do not apply anymore. Open a Cisco box up and most of the stuff
> in there is - from Asia !
> So, in my opinion, CCIE is CCIE, wether you are from Brazil, Japan, the
> United States, Korea, South Africa, or Australia. And talking about peope
> cheating...mmmm...I did not hear too much about accounting scandals like
> WorldCom or Enron in Asia.
>
> Georg
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hyunseog Ryu"
> To: "joshua lauer"
> Cc: "Pink, Paul"
> ; "Gregory W. Posey Jr."
> ; "Bobby" ;
>
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: TestKing CCIE Labs
>
>
> > Hi Joshua,
> >
> > No offense, but I want to point out something.
> > I think it's not fair to say "from mostly the asian contries".
> > They have a lot of competition for job market, especially for entry
> levels.
> > Because of strong desire for education by their parents,
> > a lot of people graduated from college with the degree,
> > but they couldn't find the job after graduation.
> > Society is a kind of over-crowded, so in order to get the job,
> > a lot of people are trying to have something special to be attracted
> > by the company.
> > So compared to whole number of people out there, I think very few people
> > decided to cheat the exam to have certification.
> >
> > I'm from Korea, but in Korea, Having CCIE doesn't mean you will be
> > Network GOD.
> > Still you should have right experiences to be hired by the good company.
> >
> > I know there are a lot of good people out there trying to get certified
> > by studying hard.
> >
> > I think it's not fair saying "from mostly the asian countries" statement
> > for whom study hard from those area.
> > It might give some impression about racial discrimination for some people.
> > If we consider the population, the rate of occurence/happening of
> > cheating will be similar to everywhere else or even lower than other
> areas.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hyun
> >
> >
> >
> > joshua lauer wrote:
> > > Groupstudy is not only good for study purposes but entertainment as
> > > well! TK has been around for awhile, I'm fairly shure most of us have
> > > seen them in one form or another. For those who dont know, they come
> > > from mostly the asian countries since (from what I'm told) the testing
> > > process is fairly lax. Study hard, EARN your number then you will be a
> > > network GOD!! :) Of course, this is just my humble personal view. Now,
> > > we can all get back to configuring routers.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > josh
> > >
> > >
> > > Joshua Lauer
> > >
> > > RHCE, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP, CCSP,INFOSEC, CEH
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pink, Paul"
>
> > > To: "Gregory W. Posey Jr." ; "Bobby"
> > >
> > > Cc:
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 5:04 PM
> > > Subject: RE: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > >
> > >
> > >> Awesome response - Enough said..
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > >> Gregory W. Posey Jr.
> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:44 PM
> > >> To: Bobby
> > >> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >> Subject: Re: TestKing CCIE Labs
> > >>
> > >> What a bunch of self-important yahoos. I can hardly believe I'm
> > >> participating in worsening the signal-to-noise ratio on GS (and believe
> > >> me
> > >> when I say I appreciate the wonderful "signal" that's available in the
> > >> midst
> > >> of all of the saber-rattling "noise").
> > >>
> > >> I can't believe a simple question like the one below has caused such an
> > >> upstart - someone who was unaware that TK is for "cheaters" simply
> > >> inquired
> > >> and a handful of respondents did what they should have (informed Bobby
> > >> that
> > >> TK was the source of all that is bad in the world, and suggested
> better,
> > >>
> > >> more legitimate study material).
> > >>
> > >> Others, however went off into their diatribes (much like I am right
> now)
> > >>
> > >> about how horrible a person Bobby must be to even ask such a question,
> > >> or
> > >> that he must be lying when he says he was unfamiliar with their
> > >> reputation,
> > >> or that he should have searched the archives before asking such a
> > >> question
> > >> (whew - it's a good thing everybody does that - and you NEVER see the
> > >> same
> > >> question show up on GS more than once).
> > >>
> > >> It never ceases to amaze me how high and mighty we network "engineers"
> > >> get
> > >> because we have the ability to push buttons on devices designed (and
> > >> dare I
> > >> say, ENGINEERED) by someone else. Does it take a lot of
> > >> knowledge/skill/experience - yes, it does. But we're not re-inventing
> > >> the
> > >> wheel here - we know the commands to type to make networks perform. We
> > >> are
> > >> NOT scientists/engineers/developers/etc. (as CCIEs is what I'm saying -
> > >> if
> > >> you happen to be any/all of the above in ADDITION to being CCIE
> > >> certified,
> > >> then bravo for you). We just happen to live in an economy that values
> > >> the
> > >> button pushers more than the actual creators. So be it - I sold out
> for
> > >> the
> > >> greater reward / lesser challenge.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you to those who replied in a manner that informed the original
> > >> questioner. And my apologies to anyone bothered/offended by my
> addition
> > >> of
> > >> noise to this august forum.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you,
> > >> Greg Posey Jr.
> > >> CCIE #7981
> > >> CCSP, CCSI
> > >> M.S. EE
> > >>
> > >> Bobby writes:
> > >>
> > >>> Are these any good for the labs? I have heard they were good for the
> > >>> written. Can anyone please advise?
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, has anyone taken the new CCIE R&S test with IPv6 in it? Just
> > >>> wondering how it compared to last years tests.
> > >>>
> > >>> Bobby
> > >>>
> > >>>
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