From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Feb 01 2005 - 13:06:23 GMT-3
The RHCE was a pretty difficult cert, with the lab and all. I think MPLS was
one of the hardest subjects (along with QOS) for me to get for the CCIP. I
think anyone who runs an actual MPLS network deserves kudos..
jl
Joshua Lauer
RHCE, MCSE, CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIP, CCSP,INFOSEC, CEH
----- Original Message -----
From: "McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net>
To: "'Tayo Fashina'" <Tayo.Fashina@bedscc.gov.uk>; "Roy Dempsey"
<roy.dempsey@gmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Any truth in this?
>I would like to see any idiot configure our MPLS network ;-)
>
> Robert McCallum
> CCIE #8757 R&S
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tayo Fashina [mailto:Tayo.Fashina@bedscc.gov.uk]
>> Sent: 01 February 2005 15:42
>> To: Roy Dempsey; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: Slightly OT: Any truth in this?
>>
>>
>> Look at it this way, Cisco just released the CCVP (Cisco cert Voice
>> Pro.) cert. Is that getting any easier? You take a look at
>> what you have to learn to get that cert, then you'll get that
>> there is not end to learning. And if this ever happens,
>> you'll end up working for Cisco as a TAC, because someone
>> would have to support these "idiots".
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roy Dempsey [mailto:roy.dempsey@gmail.com]
>> Sent: 01 February 2005 15:11
>> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Slightly OT: Any truth in this?
>>
>>
>> Came across this article, don't know anything about the
>> source. However, as someone who's been studying for this for
>> a long time, I hope its not accurate.
>>
>> Quote :
>>
>> "I was interested to see that RHCE (Red Hat Certified
>> Engineer) was listed in slot 3 of certifications IT
>> professionals want to get.
>>
>> CCIE ( Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert) is at the top,
>> which I think shows tremendous short-sightedness. Folks,
>> networking, routing and firewalls are still "hot" skills, but
>> that's not going to last. All this stuff is going to be
>> packaged up into teeny little hardware bundles that any idiot
>> can configure - in fact, it is close to that point now and
>> really is already for the home user. Yes, corporate networks
>> demand a bit more, but not all that much more. In a few more
>> years, you won't need any high-cost certified type to control
>> even a fairly complex network.
>>
>> But OS support and administration has longer lasting legs.
>> Any random idiot can't necessarily install and configure a
>> server or maybe even a desktop PC if it is part of a larger
>> network. Not yet, anyway - though zero brain configuration of
>> desktops is often possible, servers are a long way from that.
>> Will it stay that way forever? Of course not - that's one
>> reason I'm glad to be getting close to retirement age:
>> servers are already starting to become appliances, and the
>> trend will continue, requiring less and less knowledge and
>> intelligence at the point of use. If I were in my twenties or
>> thirties, I would have to be thinking realistically that the
>> market for my skills may be slowly drying up. We old geezers
>> and young whippersnappers alike can count on at least another
>> decade of being needed, but my crystal ball gets cloudy after that. "
>>
>> Link (watch the wrap):
>>
>> http://www.webpronews.com/it/itmanagement/wpn-18-20050131Linux
> Certificat
> ionGainingGroundbutCiscoStillonTop.html
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