From: amilabs (amilabs@optonline.net)
Date: Wed Dec 29 2004 - 15:26:29 GMT-3
I think it is a chance of a lifetime if you are a kid, not married or have
no kids yet and need a project to start a track record. Heck if the money
over there equals 20k a month here you can either live like a king for the
time there(if you can) or find ways to invest the money to equal the
exchange rate. Nevertheless, my point is that that experience will help
ensure that you make the money you need in the US when you return regardless
of what you get paid for over there. The experience is almost priceless.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Rinehart
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:37 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
My two cents here...
In addition to finally being a CCIE and an engineer for AT&T I am also an
ordained Baptist minister...
In my former career it was not for the money at all (trust me) but rather
for the reward of assisting and helping other people and inspiring them to
handle life in ways they hadnt considered before...
Personally, if I was single (oh wait, I am now LOL), and didnt have kids (I
do and NEED to be close to them, what can I say I am addicted), I would
consider an adventure like this one because as someone pointed out, its a
chance to help a developing country...
It would be a thrill to design, build, and operate a telecommunications
network in a developing country, knowing that it would end up assisting in
raising the standard of living, enrich the lives of the people living there,
and instill a sense of pride and accomplishment of the local populace...that
may not be the most financially rewarding, but wow the personal satisfaction
would be difficult to equal.....
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "joshua lauer" <jslauer@hotmail.com>
To: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>; "'Richard Danu'"
<rdanu@apex3.com>; "'Hai Minh'" <minh@ipmac.com.vn>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> Good point,
>
> I'm thinking there is another factor here other than money, maybe to help
a
> developing country get back on it's feet is more valuable than
money...Kinda
> like the reason why some doctors and surgeons work for free in those parts
> of the world..Personally, I would not prefer to work there but I know a
few
> people with a humanitarian bug in them that might take a bite at such a
> deal, even for less money but only for a short time gig.
>
> jl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
> To: "'Richard Danu'" <rdanu@apex3.com>; "'Hai Minh'" <minh@ipmac.com.vn>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:25 AM
> Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
>
>
> > You say the cost of living in Vietnam is low but why in the world would,
> > let's say, someone from the US making $10,000.00 a month want to move
half
> > way around the world to make $2,000.00 a month?
> >
> > What is the incentive? Throw us a bone here.
> >
> > Tony Schaffran
> > Network Analyst
> > CCIE #11071
> > CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
> > NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
> >
> > www.cconlinelabs.com
> > Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Richard Danu
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:00 AM
> > To: 'Hai Minh'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> >
> > How about CCIE making hamburgers in Vietnam?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Hai
> > Minh
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:54 AM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> >
> > What do you mean "degraded" ?
> > Do you want to say about the salary ?
> > How much does a hamburger cost in US ?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Yasser Aly" <yaseraly00@yahoo.com>
> > To: "Nguyen Hoang Long" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 4:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: OT: Re: CCIE hire in Vietnam
> >
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Is the CCIE value degraded that much ??
> >>
> >> Accepting such rates means that CCIE value is degrading !!
> >>
> >> Just my openion.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nguyen Hoang Long <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn> wrote:
> >> hi group,
> >> Sorry for unclear information, this vacancy is for valid CCIE ( not
CCIE
> >> written)
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Long
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Nguyen Hoang Long"
> >> To:
> >> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 5:37 PM
> >> Subject: CCIE hide in Vietnam
> >>
> >>
> >> > Hi group,
> >> >
> >> > There's a vacancy for CCIE in Vietnam ( either Hanoi capical or Ho
chi
> >> > minh
> >> > city) in one of the key Cisco's SI.
> >> > The position is also very flexible, can be either post-sales or
> >> > consultant.
> >> > Salary : negotiate, around 1-2 K US (NET) plus incentive / month (
note
> >> > that
> >> > daily expense, house rental in Vietnam is very cheap)
> >> >
> >> > Vietnam is in the infrastructure development phase, the number of
> >> > in-country
> >> > CCIE is only 10, that means CCIE has good chance to involve in
> > interesting
> >> > projects.
> >> >
> >> > Anyone interested, send me an off-line e-mail.
> >> >
> >> > Nguyen Hoang Long, #11898
> >> > ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn
> >> >
> >> >
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