RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's

From: Grant Stevenson (grant.h.stevenson@virgin.net)
Date: Sat Nov 27 2004 - 14:07:44 GMT-3


The biggest problem you will have is when you need to run ISIS, and say MQS.
You will need to load certain version for one, and the other won't work.
I had this issue while studying Brian's IEWB_RS stuff.
I suggest the lowest end router you get is a 2610. At least you
have some flexibility and upgrade path.

On the plus side, if you can live with the limitations, their bloody cheap
:-)

I know have 12 of them that are obsolete, and not worth selling as it will
cost me more
to post them that what they are now worth on ebay.

Good luck

PS, I upgraded for one reason, when I wanted to study, I got really annoyed
that what was
expected was not happening, and this hindered my study.

AS the Lab cost you a ?1000 a shot, you might as well bite the bullet and
buy the kit.
Once you pass you can always reseel it on ebay (if its worth much when your
done!)

Regards Grant

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Koen Peetermans
Sent: 27 November 2004 15:46
To: 'Keane, James'; 'John Matus'; 'lab'
Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's

Indeed; Don't throw them away just yet; apart from using them as a
frame-relay switch (eventually combine the frame-relay switching and
Backbone route generator in one box), a 2511 will just do nicely as terminal
server (also possible to combine it as being a backbone router).
As a route generator, 12.2 Release Enterprise will do just fine, no 12.2T
needed.

It's true that you will no be able to get all features on a 2500, but if you
know ALL the features possible on a 2500 you'd already be an expert.

80% of the knowledge needed can be trained on a 2500, for the other 20% get
one or two 2600(XM's), or hire a remote lab for some days.

If you don't want to throw all your money out of the window, get low-end,
low-cost material at home (so you can train whenever you want), and get
sessions on remote racks for stuff like ATM.

For example, I invested in voice stuff before my lab, only to have come to
the conclusion afterwards I'd been much better (cheaper) off practicing for
a couple of days on a remote lab.

Kind regards,

Koen.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Keane, James
Sent: zaterdag 27 november 2004 16:06
To: John Matus; groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; lab
Subject: RE: home labs - obsolete 2500's

On the up side -

I have used 3 2504's that were due for destruction and linked them with a
Cabletron hub (similar fate).
I brought them home and made a frame relay compound switch which gives 2
frame relay clouds and three interfaces per cloud.
Of course you need to get a few back to back cables and black boxes (6 in
total)

My configuration was adapted from the internetworkexpert white paper (which
uses a 2501 and 2520)
http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/compound.frame-relay.htm (well
done Brian Dennis & co)

So don't chuck those 2500's just yet !

James Keane

-----Original Message-----
From: John Matus [mailto:jmatus@pacbell.net]
Sent: 27 November 2004 04:08
To: groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com; 'lab'
Subject: Re: home labs

are you sure about that tony?

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-IS-L), Version 12.2(15)T9, RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc2)

is the T9 a "T" version?

Regards,

John D. Matus
MCSE, CCNP
Office: 818-782-2061
Cell: 818-430-8372
jmatus@pacbell.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
To: "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:55 PM
Subject: RE: home labs

Actually, the 2500's are pretty much obsolete now. There is not a 12.2T
Enterprise for the 2500.

Tony Schaffran
Network Analyst
CCIE #11071
CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE

www.cconlinelabs.com
Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of John
Matus
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 7:09 PM
To: lab
Subject: home labs

i'm thinking of scraping together a home lab. i know that for the 2500
series
routers you neet 16/16 ram to accomodate the enterprise ios. does anyone
know
if there are any limitations to the 2500's as far as the enterprise images
are
concerned? is there the possibility that the 2500's may not be supported in
the next couple of image releases?

thanks in advance!!!

Regards,

John D. Matus
MCSE, CCNP
Office: 818-782-2061
Cell: 818-430-8372
jmatus@pacbell.net



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