From: ccie2be (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Nov 16 2004 - 20:50:10 GMT-3
I can't vouch for any vendors Security workbook, but if IE's Security
workbook is anywhere near as good as it's R&S workbook, you'll definately
have a winner on your hands.
Re: Rack Rentals
From my own personal experience, the 3 most important criteria's are:
1) Whether or not the physcial topology EXACTLY matches what expected by
the workbook vendor. If the physical topology isn't an exact match, (for
example, the lab diagram uses R1's int E2/0, but the rental rack uses fa1/0
for that same connection) you can end up wasting lots of time
troubleshooting stupid oversights. And, when something doesn't work
properly, you always end up wondering if it's because of something you don't
understand about the technology or if you're working with the wrong
interface.
2) Support. Let's face it. S**t happens. But, if you're able to reach
and get support from the rack vendor, alot of problems or mis-understandings
can be resolved quickly. In this regard, I've had excellent experiences
with www.ccie4u.com It's run by Ian Strong and not only is he exceptionally
helpful, he's a pleasure to work with and does his best to accomdate your
needs.
3) Cost. This might not be as important for some if they have the
benefit of being able to expense this prep cost, but if you're paying out of
your own pocket, obviously the total can add up quickly. In this respect, I
also have to recommend ccie4u.
So, given those criteria, I would check out ccie4u and see how closely their
rack matches the topology of the workbook you select. In the case of the IE
R&S workbook, it's a close but not exact match and the layout of the info
you need on their site isn't as "clean" and concise as it could be so that
slowed me down quite a bit. (This may have changed since I last looked.)
HTH, Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "marc van hoof" <mvh@marcvanhoof.com>
To: "Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
Cc: "'Andy'" <AndyMrozek@yahoo.com>; <reo@chavallos.net>; "'lab'"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 6:01 PM
Subject: RE: Lab Workbook Again
> hehe - sorry about the lack of capitals - i don't really like them and
> hence don't even use them in names. but for you Scott, i'll make an
> exception :)
>
> "preparation" was a typo - damn adjacent keys.
>
> whilst we're talking about lab workbooks, i want to start my security ccie
> and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for good study
> material and rack rental ?
>
> cheers,
> -marc.
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004, Scott Morris wrote:
>
> > Just to keep the amusement going, there's some phrase about a pot and
kettle
> > coming to mind... You may consider using Word or some program to assist
on
> > the capitalization of "Yeah", "Hence", "I've" and "I" at proper times.
> >
> > Or look up "preparation" for that matter. Although, I am amused!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
marc
> > van hoof
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 11:48 PM
> > To: Andy
> > Cc: reo@chavallos.net; 'lab'
> > Subject: RE: Lab Workbook Again
> >
> > yeah, ok, so if you're going to criticize someone for making lots of
> > mistakes, i think it's only common etiquette to ensure that your flame
email
> > is flawless.
> >
> > hence, please look up the following words in a dictionary:
> >
> > Their
> > Windows
> > Seriously
> >
> > I cannot comment on the quality of the HelloComputers workbook, as i've
> > never seen it - i can tell you that the InternetworkExpert workbook was
> > enough to get me through the R&S CCIE lab on my first attempt with
> > approximately 6 weeks total perparation time (written exam on July 16th,
Lab
> > on August 26th)
> >
> > so yeah, i'd give it the thumbs up.
> >
> > -marc (#13832)
> >
> > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Andy wrote:
> >
> >> DO NOT EVER USE HELLOCOMPUTERS FOR ANYTHING... There workbooks are the
> >> worst in the industry and there instructors might as well be mutes....
> >> There workbooks have more mistakes than winddows 95.... Seriusly
> >> Netmaster is the best I have seen and once you use them ... You will
> >> almost get sick after the first lab in hello's.. I attended there 3
> >> iie program and walked out is was such garbage...
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> >> reo@chavallos.net
> >> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:27 PM
> >> To: lab
> >> Subject: Lab Workbook Again
> >>
> >>
> >> I've seen good reviews on IPeX and InternetworkExperts WBs.
> >> Any thoughts on HelloComputer R&S WB?
> >>
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