Re: smtp - IEWB lab 2, task 9.10

From: ccie2be (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Nov 16 2004 - 13:13:47 GMT-3


JP,

What IOS are you running?

Also, what bandwidth do you see on the subinterface after a reboot?

I believe if you change the bandwidth a couple more times on the main
interface, after each change, check the bandwidth on the sub-interface, you
will find that, in fact, the sub-interface doesn't inherit the bandwidth
from the physical interface.

It will interesting to see what you find out.

Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "JB" <barrerj1@hotmail.com>
To: "'ccie2be'" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'Brian McGahan'"
<bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>; "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>
Cc: "'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: smtp - IEWB lab 2, task 9.10

> The subinterfaces will inherit the bandwidth from the main interface.
>
> This works for each PVC
>
>
>
> I did the following
>
> !
> !
> !
> interface Serial0
> description Frame Relay connection to Internet
> bandwidth 1536
> ip address 192.168.20.1 255.255.255.252
> encapsulation frame-relay IETF
> service-module t1 timeslots 1-24
> service-module t1 remote-alarm-enable
> frame-relay interface-dlci 100
> frame-relay lmi-type ansi
> !
> !
>
> Without bandwidth command for PVC S0.1
>
> Serial0.1 is up, line protocol is up
> Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
> MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1536 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
> reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 5/255
> Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY IETF
>
>
> It gets the same bandwidth
>
>
> Once I Used the bandwidth to be more specific it changes. However the max
> is T1 speed of the physical interface.
>
> !
> !
>
> interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
> bandwidth 384
>
> !
> !
> !
> Serial0.1 is up, line protocol is up
> Hardware is PQUICC with Fractional T1 CSU/DSU
> MTU 1500 bytes, BW 384 Kbit, DLY 20000 usec,
> reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 3/255
>
>
>
> So, Subs do inherit the bandwidth from main interface
>
> Any comments?
> JB
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> ccie2be
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: JB; 'Brian McGahan'; 'John Matus'
> Cc: 'lab'
> Subject: Re: smtp - IEWB lab 2, task 9.10
>
> JB,
>
> I was wondering the same thing myself.
>
> I can tell with 100% certainty that sub-interfaces don't inherit the
> bandwidth configure on the physical interface.
>
> I just checked.
>
> To see for yourself, do this:
>
> int s0
> encap fram
> band 512
>
> int s0.1 point-to-point
> ip ad x.x.x.x
>
> show int s0.1
>
> The output of above command will show the default bandwidth of 1544k.
>
> HTH, Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "JB" <barrerj1@hotmail.com>
> To: "'ccie2be'" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'Brian McGahan'"
> <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>; "'John Matus'" <jmatus@pacbell.net>
> Cc: "'lab'" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:12 PM
> Subject: RE: smtp - IEWB lab 2, task 9.10
>
>
> >
> > To my knowledge, subinterfaces will inherit the bandwidth from the main
> > physical interface.
> >
> > If a more specific bandwidth is required, then set the bandwidth as
such
> > ie. 128k. 64k etc
> >
> >
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > JB
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > ccie2be
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:25 AM
> > To: Brian McGahan; John Matus
> > Cc: lab
> > Subject: Re: smtp - IEWB lab 2, task 9.10
> >
> > Brian,
> >
> > According to the note in SG on page 2-59, "Be sure to set the
appropriate
> > bandwidth value when configuring the MQC on an interface"
> >
> > When the interface in question is a F/R interface with sub-interfaces,
at
> > which level, the physical or sub-interface should the bandwidth be set?
> >
> > Thanks, Tim
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > To: "John Matus" <jmatus@pacbell.net>
> > Cc: "lab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:36 AM
> > Subject: RE: smtp flow
> >
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Yes there was a previous typo in this solution that was fixed.
> > > The correct ACLs read as follows:
> > >
> > > R3#
> > > ip access-list extended SMTP_FROM_SERVER
> > > permit tcp host 132.1.3.100 eq smtp any
> > >
> > > R5#
> > > ip access-list extended SMTP_TO_SERVER
> > > permit tcp any host 132.1.3.100 eq smtp
> > >
> > > See this post for reference:
> > >
> > >
http://forum.internetworkexpert.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=I
> > >
EWB_RS_LAB2&Number=4830&Forum=All_Forums&Words=smtp&Searchpage=0&Limit=2
> > >
5&Main=1570&Search=true&where=bodysub&Name=&daterange=1&newerval=1&newer
> > > type=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post4830
> > >
> > > And no this isn't a CCNP level question ;)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
> > > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > John Matus
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 12:29 AM
> > > > To: marc van hoof; ccie2be
> > > > Cc: lab
> > > > Subject: Re: smtp flow
> > > >
> > > > yes, that was my initial thinking, however internetwork experts had
it
> > > > ass-backwards in their solution guide and i just wanted to make sure
i
> > > was
> > > > correct <and they had a typo>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > John D. Matus
> > > > MCSE, CCNP
> > > > Office: 818-782-2061
> > > > Cell: 818-430-8372
> > > > jmatus@pacbell.net
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "marc van hoof" <mvh@marcvanhoof.com>
> > > > To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> > > > Cc: "John Matus" <jmatus@pacbell.net>; "lab"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 8:50 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: smtp flow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > oh, and to answer the question, i would probably go with:
> > > > >
> > > > > deny tcp any eq smtp any
> > > > >
> > > > > given that you have to look at the terms "server" and "client"
from
> > > the
> > > > > perspective of the transaction, rather than the functions of the
> > > > > hardware...
> > > > >
> > > > > in a traditional transaction, a client will be the originator of a
> > > > > session, and the server will be the recipient...
> > > > >
> > > > > so PC 1 creates a tcp connection from some random source port to
> > > another
> > > > > computer on port 25... in this transaction, i'd interpret that as
> > > the
> > > > > "server"
> > > > >
> > > > > to block the return traffic, you need to stop it flowing from the
> > > > "server"
> > > > > on port 25 to the client's variable port, hence it must be
> > > unspecified
> > > > in
> > > > > the acl.
> > > > >
> > > > > the definition of "server" and "client" are something you could
> > > probably
> > > > > ask the proctor though - just to clarify your understanding of the
> > > > > question. "proctor - should we assume that the client is the
> > > originator
> > > > of
> > > > > the connection - i'm a bit confused because smtp is often used
> > > between
> > > > > mail servers"...
> > > > >
> > > > > -marc (#13832)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 14 Nov 2004, ccie2be wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> John,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I don't know the answer for sure. But, in the lab, if something
> > > like
> > > > >> that
> > > > >> comes and the wording of the task didn't forbid it, what I would
do
> > > is
> > > > >> use
> > > > >> both. Youdon't lose points for extra config commands which
aren't
> > > > needed
> > > > >> as
> > > > >> long as the extra commands don't break or violate anything else.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> If one of those entries is the right entry but you don't know
which
> > > one
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> just guess, you've got a 50% chance of being right. If you put
in
> > > both
> > > > >> entries and the wrong entry does no harm, you've increase your
odds
> > > to
> > > > >> 100%.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> FYI, smtp is usually not used between a server and a client.
> > > Usually,
> > > > >> it's
> > > > >> something like pop, (or imap?).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> HTH, Tim
> > > > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > > > >> From: "John Matus" <jmatus@pacbell.net>
> > > > >> To: "lab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > >> Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 10:09 PM
> > > > >> Subject: smtp flow
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> if you are writing an acl that is denying a smpt flow from a
> > > server to
> > > > a
> > > > >>> client would it be:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> deny tcp any eq smtp any?..........(or deny tcp any any eq
smtp)?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Regards,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> John D. Matus
> > > > >>> MCSE, CCNP
> > > > >>> Office: 818-782-2061
> > > > >>> Cell: 818-430-8372
> > > > >>> jmatus@pacbell.net
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >



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