Re: WRED without fairq / cb-wfq ?

From: Kian Wah Lai (kian_wah@qala.com.sg)
Date: Thu Oct 28 2004 - 13:44:00 GMT-3


I checked the Knowledgenet Implementing QoS course and it stated
'Nondistributed WRED cannot be combined with fancy queuing - FIFO
queuing has to be used'.

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Jongsoo.Kim@Intelsat.com wrote:

>I think WREQ or queue-limit can be used with Fair Queue, which is of course
>subject of critic audit.
>Fair Queue defines queue depth (congestive-discard-threshold, DF=64 )and
>WRED or Queue limit define how packets should be dropped when the queue
>depth exceeds. With WRED, the packet will be dropped based on WRED feature
>and with queue limit, the packet will be dropped based on FIFO
>
>By the way, I am taking lab tomorrow and hope this doesn't show up.
>
>Regards
>
>Jongsoo
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AK Singh [mailto:singh.anand@gmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, 28 October, 2004 3:16 AM
>To: John Matus
>Cc: Cisco Net; Group Study
>Subject: Re: WRED without fairq / cb-wfq ?
>
>
>I am still not clear if fair queuing needs to be enabled before
>configuring WRED (say on ethernet interface)
>
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fqos
>_c/fqcprt3/qcfwred.htm#22292
>
>The documentation and example doesn't say that. I also observe that
>both fair-queue and random detect seems to be mutually exclusive and
>if you configure one other is gone, In fact if "random detect" is
>configured, IOS won't let you configure "fair-queue". See the log
>below. Can someone clear this doubt for me:
>
>R2#sh running-config interface e0/2
>Building configuration...
>
>Current configuration : 216 bytes
>!
>interface Ethernet0/2
> ip address 169.1.27.2 255.255.255.0
> no ip mroute-cache
> half-duplex
>end
>
>R2#c
>Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
>R2(config)#interface ethernet 0/2
>R2(config-if)#fair-queue
>R2(config-if)#^Z
>R2#sh running-config interface e0/2
>*Mar 6 05:47:03.976: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
>R2#sh running-config interface e0/2
>Building configuration...
>
>Current configuration : 228 bytes
>!
>interface Ethernet0/2
> ip address 169.1.27.2 255.255.255.0
> no ip mroute-cache
> half-duplex
> fair-queue
>end
>
>R2#sh queueing interface e0/2
>Interface Ethernet0/2 queueing strategy: fair
> Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
> Queueing strategy: weighted fair
> Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
> Conversations 0/1/256 (active/max active/max total)
> Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
> Available Bandwidth 7500 kilobits/sec
>
>
>R2#c
>Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
>R2(config)#int e0/2
>R2(config-if)#ran
>R2(config-if)#random-detect
>R2(config-if)#^Z
>R2#sh queueing interface e0/2
>Interface Ethernet0/2 queueing strategy: random early detection (WRED)
> Exp-weight-constant: 9 (1/512)
> Mean queue depth: 0
>
> class Random drop Tail drop Minimum Maximum Mark
> pkts/bytes pkts/bytes thresh thresh prob
> 0 0/0 0/0 20 40 1/10
> 1 0/0 0/0 22 40 1/10
> 2 0/0 0/0 24 40 1/10
> 3 0/0 0/0 26 40 1/10
> 4 0/0 0/0 28 40 1/10
> 5 0/0 0/0 31 40 1/10
> 6 0/0 0/0 33 40 1/10
> 7 0/0 0/0 35 40 1/10
> rsvp 0/0 0/0 37 40 1/10
>
>R2#sh running-config interface e0/2
>Building configuration...
>
>Current configuration : 232 bytes
>!
>interface Ethernet0/2
> ip address 169.1.27.2 255.255.255.0
> no ip mroute-cache
> half-duplex
> random-detect
>end
>
>R2#c
>Enter configuration commands, one per line. End with CNTL/Z.
>R2(config)#in
>R2(config)#interface e0/2
>R2(config-if)#fa
>R2(config-if)#fair-queue
>Must remove RED configuration first.
>R2(config-if)#^Z
>R2#
>*Mar 6 05:47:56.596: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from
>
>
>On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 22:16:14 -0700, John Matus <jmatus@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>
>>now, a question that has come up is weather you have to specify a queue
>>
>>
>size
>
>
>>when you configure 'fair-queue'. from what i'm told the default queue
>>
>>
>size
>
>
>>is zero so unless you create queues the whole thing doesn't practically
>>work......
>>anyone care to comment on this?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>John D. Matus
>>MCSE, CCNP
>>Office: 818-782-2061
>>Cell: 818-430-8372
>>jmatus@pacbell.net
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Cisco Net" <network.cisco@gmail.com>
>>To: "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:13 PM
>>Subject: WRED without fairq / cb-wfq ?
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>Is fairq or cb-wfq is a requirement for wred... ?
>>>So far i was thinking this is the requirement until somebody mentioned
>>>
>>>
>me
>
>
>>>it is not a requirement.So i am seeking help here to verify this..
>>>
>>>1) Can i enable wred on an ethernet interface without changing the fifo
>>>
>>>
>to
>
>
>>>fairq
>>> queueing. I tried and it dows not complain but i am not whether i
>>>am doing right
>>> or wrong.
>>>2) I know that in MQC i can enable on class-default. Also the default
>>>q is fair q here
>>> How about if i have a class with cbwfq (bandwith) and LLQ
>>>(priority). Can i use
>>> wred on these classes...
>>>
>>>Thank you for your help..
>>>Regards
>>>Cert
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