From: Jonathan R. Charles (jrcdehc@ameritech.net)
Date: Thu Oct 21 2004 - 02:17:41 GMT-3
The 169.254.0.0/16 range is the IP a PC gets when it can't find a DHCP
server.
The 127.0.0.1 is always the Loopback.
Jonathan
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
jean.paul.baaklini@accenture.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 09:22
To: mvh@marcvanhoof.com; cchurch@netcogov.com; hcb@gettcomm.com;
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
So just to make things sure, the "microsoft loopback address range" is
127.0.0.0/8 not 169.254.0.0/16??
Cheers,
JP
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
marc van hoof
Sent: 27 September 2004 23:42
To: 'Church, Chuck'; 'marc van hoof'; 'Howard C. Berkowitz';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
How much can I talk about this without breaking the NDA ?? ;)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Church, Chuck [mailto:cchurch@netcogov.com]
> Sent: Monday, 27 September 2004 11:00 PM
> To: marc van hoof; Howard C. Berkowitz; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
>
> I hope they've never ask a question that ambiguous! It implies that
> this vendor has their own loopback address, other than 127.0.0.0/8.
> Conversely, the 169.254.0.0/16 wouldn't ever be considered loopback,
as
> it doesn't loop anything back. It is considered a bogon
> (http://www.cymru.com/Documents/bogon-list.html ) and should be
filtered
> like any others.
>
> P.S. 127.0.0.0/8 is a great block to use for Windows machines. I've
> yet to be infected once since using it ;)
>
>
> Chuck Church
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> marc van hoof
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 2:26 AM
> To: 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
>
> While i can't say too much due to NDA's in place... <clears throat>
>
> $10* says that if they're asking you to block a "microsoft loopback
> address" they mean 127.0.0.1 and just haven't mentioned that it's also
a
> non-microsoft loopback address...
>
> regards,
> -marc.
>
> *Please note, $10 is in Australian currency and therefore useless.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 12:39 PM
> To: 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
>
>
> Ahh... I stand corrected! (or sit as the case may be!)
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> Howard C. Berkowitz
> Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 10:11 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: microsoft 1918 address
>
> At 9:56 PM -0400 9/25/04, Scott Morris wrote:
> >While that's true, I believe RFC 3330 (if memory serves) came AFTER
> >Microsoft decided to start handing out these addresses.
> >
> >One o' them things. :)
>
> No, Microsoft decided to use it after MIT was using it on their
> networks,
> according to a conversation I had with Jeff Schiller, MIT network
> manager
> and former Security Area Director of the IETF.
>
> >
> >
> >Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> CISSP,
> >JNCIP, et al.
> >IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> >IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> >swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> >http://www.ipexpert.net
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
> >James
> >Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:05 PM
> >To: joshua lauer
> >Cc: John Matus; lab
> >Subject: Re: microsoft 1918 address
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 25, 2004 at 07:47:14PM -0400, joshua lauer wrote:
> >> I know when you dont have ip assigned ala' dhcp or static XP
assigns
> >> you some itself, this is to facilitate "plug and play networking"
> for
> >> home user. Those are in the private range, as far as them being
> >> allocated to MS, I'm not sure..
> >
> >It's not a Microsoft thing. It's an industry approved standard addr
> space
> >for link local... It's kind of like IPv6's built-in link local,
except
> that
> >it behaves differently in v4.. :)
> >
> >hth,
> >-J
> >
> >
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