From: Ludwig Morales (morales_l@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Oct 09 2004 - 15:45:29 GMT-3
Then buy it pleassseee!!!
See also if you could buy something that only uses BGP, getting that out of
the lab would'nt hurt either
:P
Regards,
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Larus" <tlarus@cox.net>
To: "Abdul Waheed Ghaffar" <a_w_ghaffar@hotmail.com>
Cc: <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco Removes VoIP ?'s from R&S
> Abdul Waheed Ghaffar wrote:
>
> > Brian,
> >
> > Why not if Routers are also included at the same price ;)
> >
> >> From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> >> Reply-To: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
> >> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >> Subject: RE: Cisco Removes VoIP ?'s from R&S Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004
> >> 16:15:24 -0400
> >>
> >> Anyone want to buy a bunch of NM-1V's with VIC-2FXS cards? ;-)
> >>
> >> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> >> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
> >>
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Mark Lasarko
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 1:05 PM
> >> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >> Subject: Cisco Removes VoIP ?'s from R&S
> >>
> >> Hmmmmmmmmmmm...
> >>
> >> ( taken from
> >>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/ccie/announcements/index.html#rs
> >> removesvoip
> >> )
> >>
> >> 06 OCT 2004: Beginning January 1, 2005, Cisco will remove questions
> >> regarding VoIP concepts from its CCIE Routing & Switching lab exam. In
> >> addition, a new version of the CCIE R&S written exam, also with VoIP
> >> removed, is currently being prepared for general release sometime in
> >> December of 2004. A beta test of the revised written exam recently
> >> concluded on September 22, 2004 and is being analyzed. VoIP was
> >> originally included in CCIE R&S exams when it emerged as a new use for
> >> enterprise IP networks. Presently, VoIP has matured to the point that
> >> organizations rely more on voice technology experts, with specialized
> >> skills and experience, to implement and maintain their VoIP solutions.
> >> In September 2003 Cisco began specifically certifying CCIEs in Voice.
> >> With the availability of CCIE certification in Voice, the CCIE R&S exam
> >> will now refocus on core networking issues. For more details, see the
> >> revised R&S written exam blueprint , the R&S lab blueprint, and other
> >> information on the CCIE web site.
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> ~M
> >>
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> I will miss voice. It was fun, reasonably straightforward, and made QOS
> material more keenly relevant and interesting. It was expensive ($1300
> new for the voice modules- the things were going for just as much used
> as new then), but one of the big expenses was the need for 2600 routers,
> at least. Now we need 2600s (or XMs) in a really good lab rack anyway.
>
> I have considered buying ATM equipment so I can write some full-blown
> CCIE practice labs, but I have been concerned that if I buy ATM
> equipment, Cisco will take it off the lab the day after I put it in my
> rack.
>
> Best regards,
> Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
>
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