From: dusth@comcast.net
Date: Thu Sep 23 2004 - 17:53:49 GMT-3
I agree. Where you are is not a big of deal but what you are and how you get there are big brothers.
My brother in law works for Cisco in VoIP B.U. for carrier. They were merged to the same B.U. w/ old Celsius - forgive me if I spell this incorrect -R&D group (now Cisco VoIP enterprise solution B.U.) which has a whole bunch of PhD., Master, MBA, B.S. degree holders which they are the people made up Cisco VoIP product lines for enterprise.
He told me Cisco internally gave them CCIE VoIP test but only one out for hundreds R&D, Trial, Support Engineers passed the CCIE VoIP.
CCIE is just another of expert domain. CCIE folks do not know everything as well as neither PhD. and MS R&D engineers. They are just an expert of their domain.
NO BIGGIES.
My 2cents
-------------- Original message --------------
> I completely agree.........sometimes it's not where you are, but how you got
> there. This guy recanted his statement by the way when confronted head on,
> said he meant a different certification. I didnt ask, just left it at that.
> No harm, No foul...I dont work with him so no sweat off my back.
>
> josh
>
>
> Josh Lauer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elliott Reyes"
> To: "'Scott Morris'" ; "'joshua lauer'"
> ;
> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:58 PM
> Subject: RE: What CCIE would forget his number?
>
>
> > Sad to say, I've run across a few guy's like this past as well. No
> > biggies,
> > Those that are true know who they are. I've also run into some ccies that
> > didn't know half of what I thought they would. Like Scott's said before
> > it's
> > all in the journey :)
> >
> >
> >
> > E
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Scott Morris
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:08 PM
> > To: 'joshua lauer'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: What CCIE would forget his number?
> >
> > Personally, I'd contact ccie@cisco.com (or look at the web site for other
> > links) and report the person as one who is misrepresenting himself as a
> > CCIE. I'm sure there are some legal ramifications in that as well as the
> > whole "duh" factor of the guy opening his mouth like that in a relatively
> > small industry. ;)
> >
> > Enjoy the talk with his supervisor!
> >
> >
> > Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
> > JNCIP, et al.
> > IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> > IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> > swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> > http://www.ipexpert.net
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > joshua lauer
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:03 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: OT: What CCIE would forget his number?
> >
> > I know this is off topic but I'm kind of seared about this......
> >
> > Was in the elevator at work, a technician from the server farm maintenece
> > guys
> > (contractor) saw my ccie study material in hand on the way out the door.
> > He
> > mentioned that he was a CCIE (Bull) and that he was planning on getting
> > recertified (This is a server maintence guy).
> >
> > I asked him his number and lo and behold.......he forgot it! I also asked
> > him where he took his lab, he mentioned washington D.C. (If there is one
> > there that I havent heard about please correct me, I would save big on
> > travel to the lab and hotel rooms).
> >
> > He then went on to mention how he had every cisco certification there
> > was......I was pretty speechless after that.
> >
> > Is there anyway to verify by name that this guy doesnt have one? Since he
> > doesnt have a number (he forgot) I cant do it that way. Cause I want some
> > ammo when I talk to this lyin' fools supervisor tomorrow.
> >
> > josh
> > Josh Lauer
> >
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