From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Fri Sep 03 2004 - 16:35:24 GMT-3
Now John....
Don't you think we're being a little harsh here? I mean, it WAS us old fart
CCIEs who helped you get your own and strive to understand things, was it
not?
As I'm sure you'll figure out, given the whole NDA thing at all, there's a
fine line between "accurate" labs and a "copy of the real lab" that you need
to be sure not to cross. It would be a shame to see a loss of the CCIE
number that was a proud achievement not to long ago. Topic-wise, what are
the rest of us missing?
Also, we are a small community here. All in all, most people run into
others multiple times throughout their career. It would probably be a
better idea for you to gain a reputation by developing a superior product
and working to beat all the rest of us out of the market rather than sending
e-mail expressing your unfounded bad taste.
Market, don't blast! Besides, I don't believe that Eric will be taking your
class as he doesn't need it any more! :)
Cheers,
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al. (Outdated kinda guy)
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of john
matijevic
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 1:57 PM
To: 'Joseph D. Phillips'; 'Eric Hoffman'
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE # 13843
Hello Eric,
Congratulations for passing the exam even though it took you 6 times. I had
to take the exam 5 times to pass. I had a similar experience to you I had
purchased several workbooks, but I attended more than 1 boot camp.
I attended Netmaster and Internetworkexpert mock lab workshop as well as the
IPexpert audio boot camp. Even though I did not attend Cyscoexpert, I did
research them and felt that they were really overcharging. And that they
gave some students different prices than others, I don't think that is fair
to do to customers. Also the big problem is with the boot camps, is that
they don't tell you what there passing rate is. This to me is very important
factor, I want to know how many people pass after attending the boot camp.
It is a shame that you have to fail so many times in order to pass like I
did. I really can sympathize, the problem with many of the boot camps out
there and the workbook vendors is that they made there boot camp courses or
workbooks years ago, and they got their ccie years ago(look at their CCIE
numbers), so they try and update their workbooks but the problem is that the
original topologies, tasks etc, are still left over. Yes I purchased
IPexpert as well, again my feelings are that those labs were originated
years ago, and they did not completely rewrite the entire book, even though
they have now proctor guide and have several new labs. I am very proud to
start my course, because I have very current CCIE only 3 months, and I took
exam so many times, that I have very good idea of what exam is about. I
don't waste your time studying material that won't be tested on, and more
importantly I am not going to overcharge you, like some of the other boot
camps. Good Luck in your career endeavors as well!!!
Sincerely,
John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA CEO IgorTek Inc.
151 Crandon Blvd. #402
Key Biscayne, FL 33149
Hablo Espanol
305-321-6232
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-CCIE
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph D. Phillips
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:49 AM
To: Eric Hoffman
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE # 13843
Very good. Congratulations, from a boob that's flunked 4x. :)
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