From: tycampbell@comcast.net
Date: Fri Sep 03 2004 - 16:31:21 GMT-3
IPExpert rocks!!!...
Everything in the workbook was on the lab...actually the workbook was harder than the real lab. Oh...and I know at least one person that has passed the lab that hasn't told Wayne yet :-)
All he used was IPExpert....and he had less than 5 attempts...
-------------- Original message --------------
> Wow John, nothing like earning your CCIE number (after 5 attempts) and then
> jumping
> right into the market like you're the king of the hill - all of this while
> passively cutting
> down established (and successful) vendors and CCIE's with lower numbers...
>
> Regarding your comments on our (IPexpert) products - I'd like you to try to
> explain to me
> how our workbook is outdated or irrelevant - as you seem to claim below. In
> case you
> weren't aware - the CCIE Lab did contain ISDN, Frame Relay, RIP and OSPF several
> years
> ago...(Actually you're probably aware....when did you begin your IE prep - and
> take your 1st
> attempt?). Some technologies and protocols remain the same while some change.
> There isn't
> and wasn't a need for us to rewrite our product - as you claim. People are
> using it today,
> and they're still successful - as you saw below - from this original post.
>
> Also, when and if you ever get more than a few students who attend your course
> - you'll
> realize that it becomes nearly impossible to track students. We have several
> hundred
> students who have attended our classes over the past year - and less than 15% of
> them
> report back to us, so the fact that you're trying to use a "success rate"
> formula just won't
> provide the needed feedback.
>
> Be careful who and where you run your mouth....a guy just starting out as a
> CCIE instructor,
> (again - after taking 5 attempts to pass) really doesn't rate enough to begin
> bashing
> established vendors with IE's on staff who are triple or quad certified. If you
> want to run
> and establish a successful business - do it with character and ethics. Don't
> cut down your
> competition on public newsgroups or mailing lists like some of these vendors do
> - earn your
> respect and keep your mouth shut - your work, products or services will speak
> for themselves.
> Spend the time, money and effort to establish a sales and marketing plan - quit
> using a public
> mailing list as your means of reaching customers. it's cheap and overdone on
> this newslist!
>
> Wayne Lawson
> President - IPexpert, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: "john matijevic" matijevi@bellsouth.net
> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 13:56:56 -0400
> To: "'Joseph D. Phillips'" josephdphillips@fastmail.us
> Subject: RE: CCIE # 13843
>
> > Hello Eric,
> > Congratulations for passing the exam even though it took you 6 times. I
> > had to take the exam 5 times to pass. I had a similar experience to you
> > I had purchased several workbooks, but I attended more than 1 boot camp.
> > I attended Netmaster and Internetworkexpert mock lab workshop as well as
> > the IPexpert audio boot camp. Even though I did not attend Cyscoexpert,
> > I did research them and felt that they were really overcharging. And
> > that they gave some students different prices than others, I don't think
> > that is fair to do to customers. Also the big problem is with the boot
> > camps, is that they don't tell you what there passing rate is. This to
> > me is very important factor, I want to know how many people pass after
> > attending the boot camp. It is a shame that you have to fail so many
> > times in order to pass like I did. I really can sympathize, the problem
> > with many of the boot camps out there and the workbook vendors is that
> > they made there boot camp courses or workbooks years ago, and they got
> > their ccie years ago(look at their CCIE numbers), so they try and update
> > their workbooks but the problem is that the original topologies, tasks
> > etc, are still left over. Yes I purchased IPexpert as well, again my
> > feelings are that those labs were originated years ago, and they did not
> > completely rewrite the entire book, even though they have now proctor
> > guide and have several new labs. I am very proud to start my course,
> > because I have very current CCIE only 3 months, and I took exam so many
> > times, that I have very good idea of what exam is about. I don't waste
> > your time studying material that won't be tested on, and more
> > importantly I am not going to overcharge you, like some of the other
> > boot camps. Good Luck in your career endeavors as well!!!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
> > CEO
> > IgorTek Inc.
> > 151 Crandon Blvd. #402
> > Key Biscayne, FL 33149
> > Hablo Espanol
> > 305-321-6232
> > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-CCIE
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > Joseph D. Phillips
> > Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:49 AM
> > To: Eric Hoffman
> > Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: CCIE # 13843
> >
> > Very good. Congratulations, from a boob that's flunked 4x. :)
> >
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