From: BROWNE, KEN \(AIT\) (kb8632@sbc.com)
Date: Wed Sep 01 2004 - 14:54:04 GMT-3
It sounds like Joe has had the opposite experience that I've had at SBC.
I work 40 hours a week, get trained, SBC put me through an MBA program,
paid for my certifications, and didn't lay me off. I'm glad I didn't
work for Joe's organization at SBC! Thanks. Ken.
Ken Browne
Systems Engineering Manager
CCNP, CCDP
SBC Advanced Enterprise Solutions Engineering
-----Original Message-----
From: Georg Pauwen [mailto:pauwen@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:50 AM
To: JoeDeleonardo@cox.net; BROWNE, KEN (AIT); ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern Virginia
Sounds like a description of the average IT job these days...
>From: "Joe Deleonardo" <JoeDeleonardo@cox.net>
>Reply-To: "Joe Deleonardo" <JoeDeleonardo@cox.net>
>To: "BROWNE, KEN (AIT)" <kb8632@sbc.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern
Virginia
>Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:37:39 -0700
>
>Well since we're going off topic. I worked for SBC for 5 years. You
will
>never experience more bullshit and corporate politics in your life.
Then
>after 5 years of service you can expect to be laid off when the economy
>gets shaky... even though you may have stayed when other job offers
were
>better during better economic times, you may have worked 70-80 hours
per
>week on salary and may have sacrificed your education and time with
your
>family for the company.
>
>Bitter? You're dam right! Everyone out there just remember SBC doesn't
care
>about you. They care about their bottom line. Concentrate on your
family
>first, then your CCIE [education is your future], then your job.
>
>CCIE 12391
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "BROWNE, KEN (AIT)" <kb8632@sbc.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 10:02 AM
>Subject: SBC Pre-Sales Engineering Position Open - Northern Virginia
>
>
>>Hi Everybody:
>>
>>SBC, a fortune 25 company, is seeking a Cisco-centric pre-sales
>>engineer in the Northern Virginia, Baltimore, Sterling area. High
pay,
>>retirement program, matching 401k, long term full time employment,
very
>>stable company, medical, dental, vision, disability, life insurance.
>>This position is for a CCNP/DP type, with strong Cisco technical
skills.
>>Minimal travel locally. In this position, you will work with SBC
>>Advanced Enterprise Solutions sales teams to design solutions within
the
>>Cisco, Sniffer, Juniper, and various vendor's enterprise environments.
>>You will see every type of equipment, and be involved in some of the
>>largest enterprise networks in Northern Virginia. Additionally, SBC
>>pays for, and deeply encourages training and certification. All
>>inquiries are treated with strict confidentiality. If you have
>>interest, please contact me via email at kb8632@sbc.com.
>>
>>
>>Ken Browne
>>Systems Engineering Manager
>>CCNP, CCDP
>>SBC Advanced Enterprise Solutions Engineering
>>
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