From: joshua lauer (jslauer@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 19:12:31 GMT-3
But........You miss out on the community support and the support of the
company if you do that. I think you get so much more if you purchase the
materials. You are not only purchasing just a book but you are forming a
relationship with a company of professionals...that you may even end up with
one day, no matter which company you purchase from. They are all useful,
it's a matter of preference really.
josh
Josh Lauer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Dennis" <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "Cisco Nuts" <cisconuts@hotmail.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: Internetwork Expert R&S Workbook
> Cisco Nuts,
> By searching "CCIE" you can find almost every vendor's material
> on sites like www.filedonkey.com and Kaaza. There is no use for us to
> contact the FBI's as they are not going to take sites like these down.
> If the FBI could take them down, the music industry would have had them
> take the sites down years ago.
>
> As a side note you have to remember that $500 USD is still a lot
> of money to some people so the desire to get access to bootlegged copies
> of training material is very high.
>
> Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
> Toll Free: 877-224-8987
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Cisco Nuts
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 1:43 PM
> To: groupstudy@ipexpert.net
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Internetwork Expert R&S Workbook
>
> Wayne...Hold on!!
>
> Kidding aside ......What is this thing about the Kaaza stuff....?? I
> have
> never once heard about this before..!!
>
> Are people seriously doing such kind of stuff?? Deplorable !! When you
> think that these workbooks go for less than $500.00 bucks now.
>
> Regards.........
>
> >From: Wayne Lawson <groupstudy@ipexpert.net> >Reply-To: Wayne Lawson
> <groupstudy@ipexpert.net> >To: Brian Dennis
> <bdennis@internetworkexpert.com>, Georg Pauwen <pauwen@hotmail.com>,
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com> >Subject: RE: Internetwork Expert R&S Workbook
> >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:32:33 -0400 > > Georg, > > The link
> that Mr. Dennis provided you with (for IPexpert) is V5. V6 consisted of
> diagram and technical updates - and config fixes. We also developed a
> complimentary product called the "Proctor Guide" that was designed to
> provide our customers with instructoral and proctoral guidance while
> completing our scenarios. The link for this complimentary product is:
> https://www.ipexpert.com/downloads/PG-Sample-1.zip. It's quite a
> different approach than our competition went with - we don't offer "hand
> holding" for the entire workbook - we provide you with technical
> guidance
> and hints similar to what the real proctor will give you during the
> lab. If you want hand-holding - we're not the vendor that will fit your
> style. We have ran a special for the past 2 months where the Proctor
> Guide is free when someone purchases a 6.0 WB - and we'll probably be
> extending it for 2 more weeks due to the incredible response. As Mr.
> Dennis states, be sure you do your homework when selectin! > g a
> >product. Success stories and testimonials are important, but make sure
> that the product fits your learning and preparation style. Also, be
> sure
> you check out the additional services that all vendors provide such as
> online support, product updates and product enhancements. Check out the
> product contents thoroughly - check out the design of the material, the
> number of scenarios and check to see if there is a structured learning
> approach that will assist you from beginning to end of your lab
> prep. Some of the vendors out there have a product that was released in
> August or October 2003, while others are kept current. Some vendors
> have
> a product that contain full 1-day mock labs - some vendors have a
> combination of both. If you have any additoinal questions, please feel
> free to email me directly at wayne@ipexpert.com. If you really want to
> add to another thread on this list - feel free to join Kazaa and
> download
> all of the workbooks free of charge - Mr. Dennis thinks this ! > is
> funny, >so I'm sure he won't be offended! ;-) > >Thanks - Wayne > > >
> >-----Original message----- >From: "Brian Dennis"
> bdennis@internetworkexpert.com >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:18:49 -0400
> >To: "Georg Pauwen" pauwen@hotmail.com >Subject: RE: Internetwork Expert
> R&S Workbook > > > Georg, > > > > When shopping around for a
> workbook
> to buy one of the best things to > > do is to download the sample lab
> from each company and look at what > > style of practice lab works best
> for you. Each company's labs are > > different as you will see. > > > >
> > > > > http://www.netmasterclass.net/site/pdf/DOiT-SAMPLE-SCENARIO.pdf
> >
> > > > http://www.racktimerentals.com/IPexpert-V5-Free.pdf > > > >
> http://www.internetworkexpert.com/downloads/iewb-rs.sample.lab.pdf > > >
> > > > > > You might also look at the number of recent CCIEs that
> each > > company has listed on their website to get a good idea of how
> many > > people are using their products and services to pass the
> lab. This > > should be a very important factor in determining which
> vendor to > > purchase products from. > > > > > > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE
> #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security) > > > > bdennis@internetworkexpert.com > >
> > > > > > > Internetwork Expert, Inc. > > > >
> http://www.InternetworkExpert.com > > > > Toll Free: 877-224-8987 > > >
> >
> Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada) > > > > > > > >
> -----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > > Georg Pauwen > > Sent:
> Friday, August 27, 2004 9:00 AM > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > >
> Subject: Internetwork Expert R&S Workbook > > > > > > > > Hello
> colleagues, > > > > > > > > does anybody use the Internetwork Experts
> R&S
> Workbook to prepare for > > the > > > > lab ? After failing the lab for
> the third time last Monday, I am > > thinking I > > > > might have to
> change my preparation strategy...and I have heard good > > things > > >
> >
> about the workbook. > > > > Also, has anybody ever ordered the hardcopy
> ?
> I am trying to call the > > number > > > > provided on their website for
> days, but all I get is an answering > > machine > > > > telling me to
> leave my name and number, and then I never hear anything, > > > > emails
> are not answered either. Maybe the hardcop is only sold within > > the
> US
> > > > > ? Is there anybody out there who might be willing to sell me the
> > > hardcopy ? > > > > I am in The Netherlands... > > > > > > > >
> Regards, > > > > > > > > Georg Pauwen > > > > > > > >
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