From: ccie2be (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Aug 13 2004 - 17:52:07 GMT-3
A couple of years ago, a buddy of mine finally became a ccie. Prior to
deciding to earn his ccie, he was an instructor for Global Train - a Cisco
training partner - for 5 years. He taught every single authorized Cisco
course, from ICRC on up. He was one of the top and most widely respected
instructors in the company until the company ran into financial problems and
laid him off.
While he was working for Global Train, he figured that eventually he'd
become a ccie and would occasionally practice labs on his home lab of 13 or
so routers. But, once he was laid off, he decided to comit himself full
time to earning this cert.
Before becoming a Cisco instructor, he worked as a senior engineer for
Sniffer and knew the nitty gritty details of every field in a TCP, UPD, an
IP packet plus a heck of alot more since IPX was fairly widely used back
then as well.
So, if you were to conclude from this background that this guy was extremely
intelligent, aritculate, very experienced in network technology and with
Cisco routers and switches in particular, you'd be 100% right. (He also
happens to be an overall great guy.)
Now, here's the kicker.
This buddy of mine failed the lab 6 times before passing. Yep, he didn't
pass until his 7th attempt.
For me, the moral of the story is twofold:
1) This test is hard, damn hard.
2) If you're committed to passing, you will.
So, to you Steve, I say congradulations to your commitment, dedication, and
accomplishment. And, enjoy the sense of pride you have certainly earned.
And, to all the other (myself included) who continue to strive towards this
achievement, don't surrender, don't give up and take no prisoners on your
path to ccie.
Tim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Router" <route2hell@hotmail.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, August 13, 2004 11:27 AM
Subject: Passing at RTP #13784
> Well I passed,
> After a long trip starting in Dec 2001 passing the written exam, I finally
> passed on the 5th time. I would like to thank my wife for putting up with
> my many hours of studying.
>
> The path you take to get your certification is much more important then
the
> # after your name, there are many important use full and some very useless
> knowledge to gain.
>
> I am have to thank the following people Victor my first lab partner,
Louis,
> Chi, Sam and lastly Vickas for helping through what was for me harder then
> college.
>
> I made it in 5 attempts which are above the average of 3.8 attempts most
> people take I think. I have a learning disability which made it extra
hard
> to do the tests but I passed the same exam every one else has passed.
Many
> people pass whom speak english as a second language which i feel can be a
> problem to them and I feel they deserve extra credit as well. But the
Cisco
> language of the exam is another language apart from any English its so
> tricky its must be a dialect of the Mircosoft MCSE English .
>
> What I have to say about people who wish to pass:
>
> Have lots of rack time buy equipment for at least the base on your rack
> (its cheaper now then when I started)
> 6 routers a 1 frame relay hub and a 2924 or 3550 switch
> 1 or 2 back bone routers
> and a console server cisco or cyclades.
> also becarefull only the 2600 or 3600 series and up routers support some
QOS
> and IP v6 after Jan 05
> -----------buying rack time for 3550s and atm and voice is good saves you
> money------------------------- Read many books: the router and switch
field
> manuals (new books from cisco ) the secutity field guide, the cisco
> multicast book, parkhursts BGP and OSPF and the eigrp command references
and
> soleys practial studies. Read and find it on the document CDROM too.
>
> Do not rely on IP expert labs as anything but practice they are good I
like
> the Boson CCIE series better then ip expert which has greatly improved
from
> its single topology lab that change very little.
>
> The greatest advantage you have is this: the Document CDROM the sole
source
> of every question on the exam has to come from some where in maze of
> documents not directly all the times :) (I think dont know this to be
true
> but a good 90% of it)
>
> But another golden rule is to make friends whom are CCIEs or CCIE
candidates
> or just strong Cisco Gurus, contacts will help you in understand what you
> are doing wrong even if you are doing it correctly. Most of these people
may
> become friends after the CCIE is reached too. I could not have passed with
> the help of my friends. The beatles song I get by with a little help
from
> my friends
>
> Understand you need help in some topics is important, others will come
> easy from your job or reading and doing. But dont let the basic practice
> labs or questions stop you from digging deep into topic like ISIS or
DLSW.
> Know all the core stuff first OSPF, EIGRP , RIP ISDN , Frame relay ATM and
> ISIS. Then move on to the QOS, 3550s, IOS secrets, DLSW, security and
> Multicast. Its easier to start from layer 2 to layer 3 then to the
advance
> topics. Crawl before you walk.!!! Dont take a Boot camp lab out and
start
> typing commands in without knowing frame relay, CIDR and basic IGP and
BGP.
> Take notes, organize your notes print it out and binder it.
>
> Having a CCNP/CCDP doesnt equal CCIE candidate.
>
> Taking the lab
>
> Plan a head two months before the lab schedule at least 2 to 4 hours a day
> to study and practice full labs only a few days a week. Over 4 times a
week
> will burn you out quick.!!
> Relax the days before the exam reading your well kept notes.
>
> Test your lab at home and in the lab
> Then be able to test with the TCLSH commands !!! and reread the exam,
> remember to skip questions that are low points when you need the time to
> check your exam.
> Points = time
>
> Don't quit !!! Most people fail on the first attempt!!!
> Take it again after you fail dont give in!!
> I dont agree with boot camps that know what exam you will get and force
you
> to learn the Cisco way to pass and take your $$$ the path to the ccie is
> more important then the # you get.
> The # verifies what you know but learning doesnt stop there!!
> I respect the many people whom passed and the many who yet to pass the
CCIE.
>
> But I respect every one who tries and the people who help.
>
> Best of luck to everyone and thanks to all the people on group study
> Thanks Boson, thanks Waffle house in RTP, many thanks to my friends out
> there..
>
> Steve R @ RTP
> #13784
>
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