From: Larry Letterman (lletterm@cisco.com)
Date: Fri Jul 30 2004 - 18:26:03 GMT-3
I am not sure which gets bigger first, the egos or the ccie numbers here...
Its really sad that a great forum to help people here has to subjected to
this sort of thing...
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Larry Letterman
INS-NW-West
Cisco Systems Inc.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "john matijevic" <matijevi@bellsouth.net>
To: "'Scott Morris'" <swm@emanon.com>; "'Matt'" <matt_ccie_2004@yahoo.com>; <laurent.metzger@bt.com>; <geert.nijs@simac.be>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
> Hello Scott,
> Again, its too bad I didn't pass my first attempt. I recall spending
> months working with you in the ccbootcamp forum, when you were working
> for ccbootcamp. Anyone here can go to the forum to verify. I'm just
> trying to ease the suffering of other ccie candidates here. I see no
> wrong in what I am doing, as long as I help people. I feel its gotten
> bad that vendors actually try to attack and destroy what I am trying to
> do. I will keep working hard for everyone on this list, and wont give in
> to people that try and bring me down. God Bless.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA
> Network Consultant
> Hablo Espanol
> 305-321-6232
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Scott Morris
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 4:32 PM
> To: 'john matijevic'; 'Matt'; laurent.metzger@bt.com;
> geert.nijs@simac.be; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
>
> Please do take it offline...
>
> While the barbing is entertaining to watch, I believe the point is that
> you
> should let your posts and your signature line do the advertising for
> you.
> There is no need to alienate or irritate the others.
>
> Be subtle, and more people will respect you for it. If someone purports
> to
> have a CCIE, there is really no need to want to jump up and verify it
> either.
>
> Sometimes, discretion is the better part of valor.
>
>
> Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
> CISSP,
> JNCIP, et al.
> IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
> IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
> swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
> http://www.ipexpert.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> john
> matijevic
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:40 PM
> To: 'Matt'; laurent.metzger@bt.com; geert.nijs@simac.be;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
>
> Matt,
> Please post your name and number so we can verify using the verification
> tool. Even if you do have the CCIE, than it does no good by criticizing
> others. The people here need help; they don't want to see this kind of
> stuff, if you don't have anything helpful to say, than don't say it. Now
> lets help these people. I am just going to help the people. Please take
> this
> offline if you have further comments.
> Sincerely,
>
> John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA Network Consultant Hablo
> Espanol
> 305-321-6232
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt [mailto:matt_ccie_2004@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:34 PM
> To: john matijevic; laurent.metzger@bt.com; geert.nijs@simac.be;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
>
> Correction sir, I DO have my CCIE, and my number happens to be lower
> than
> yours.
>
> -matt
>
>
> john matijevic <matijevi@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Matt,
> As far as I know this is a list to help each other out. If I am offering
> a
> service to help people out, I see no wrong doing, to let people know.
> I have helped and contributed to this list for the past 2 years. I have
> a
> lot of knowledge and experience, as far as the CCIE exam. I have been
> though
> a lot of pain and suffering. I am sorry if I offended you. I am not to
> offend anyone, I just would like to help people. I wish someone would
> have
> given me advice when I started, I didn't know what to do, actually I got
> some bad advice when I started. I do post many technical posts as well,
> I
> just don't post trying to sell something. If you don't believe me search
> the
> archives. I am sorry if that you don't got your CCIE yet, and find no
> reason
> than to blame others, that is what I used to do also. Now lets get back
> to
> studying!!!
>
> John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA Network Consultant Hablo
> Espanol
> 305-321-6232
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt [mailto:matt_ccie_2004@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 2:25 PM
> To: john matijevic; laurent.metzger@bt.com; geert.nijs@simac.be;
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
>
> John-
>
> With all due respect, can you please stop promoting your class here?
> Get a website and post the URL if you want to get the word out. This
> list
> is not for advertising, it is for technical discussion. There are quite
> a
> few excellent contributors to this list (they know who they are) that
> either
> have their own class, or work for a company offering classes, and they
> don't
> seem to slip it into almost every email they send.
>
> Regards,
>
> Matt
>
> john matijevic <matijevi@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Congradulations,
> I am very happy for you. And I am sure they are a good class, been a
> while
> since I've been to Rotterdam and Amsterdam, a very nice part of the
> world
> indeed. I am very excited about my class, because you can do my class
> from
> anywhere in the world, at a fraction of the cost of the other training
> bootcamps. No traveling involved. I just had my first CCIE student last
> week, I am sure more to follow. Right now I am at 100% with my students.
> Please folks email me, my classes have been filling up, I still have a
> few
> slots left for September, and I also have some one-on-one's for August.
>
> Sincerely,
> John Matijevic, CCIE #13254, MCSE, CNE, CCEA Network Consultant Hablo
> Espanol
> 305-321-6232
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> laurent.metzger@bt.com
> Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 12:12 PM
> To: geert.nijs@simac.be; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #13729
>
> YES, mate.
>
> CONGRATULATIONS.
> The Training Bootcamp of Dimension Data with trainer Willy Schoots in
> Holland was indeed excellent and during those two weeks, we prepared for
> the
> CCIE labs but we also enjoyed the technologies (maybe the more
> important!!!!) and motivated each other. The proof is 4 CCIEs within 2
> months in a class of 7.
>
> Enjoy your holiday, Geert.
>
> Laurent Metzger
> CCIE #13538
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com on behalf of Geert Nijs
> Sent: Fri 7/30/2004 4:01 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Cc:
> Subject: CCIE #13729
>
>
>
> Hello group,
>
> Just to let you know that i passed yesterday, on my second attempt, in
> Brussels also, just like Koen (who is #13730).
> It has been a hard journey for me also, but i can't describe the rush
> that
> you get when you see that "PASS" line on the Cisco Web Site !
>
> I am also not going to bore you with details on how to obtain the
> certification.
> You all know that already: it is just plain hard working, hard studying
> and
> never giving up !!
>
> I do however would like to thank the following people:
>
> - First, my company Simac, who has made it possible for me to obtain
> this
> certification.
> - Second, my girlfriend Nathalie, who has always kept supporting me,
> even on
> the hard days when i was down.
> - Third, i would like to thank Willy of Dimension Data for his excellent
> Bootcamp (who is also reading this list,
> so: Hi !) and all of my fellow students. They really boosted my
> knowledge
> level in those 14 days.
> I couldn't have done it without them !
> - And last but not least, everyone on this really, really excellent
> spam-free Groupstudy list who helped me with their insights when i was
> firing off my many questions....
>
> In a while, i will be enjoying myself on a well-deserved vacation, and
> don't
> worry: I will be keeping an eye on this list for anyone i can help,
>
> Regards,
> Geert Nijs.
>
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