From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Thu Jul 15 2004 - 01:15:13 GMT-3
I'm going to assume that you are going for your fourth lab (and will pass)
instead of knowing you are going for your fourst failure on the 27th! :)
I'm not sure the score reports are meaningless, although they do not make it
easy to quantify where your improvement areas really are... But with that
in mind, they can still provide a good indicator to which areas should be
reviewed.
While you may think you understand a topic pretty well, as I've said before,
it may very well be simple things like typos or skimming over an important
part (e.g. reading error) that kills you. It happens. What can you do to
fix this? Breathe more deeply... Read the exam multiple times at the onset
before your mind gets clouded up and confounded with other items. It's a
mental thing.
What should you study? If you feel confident at this point, that's a great
thing. If it's misplaced, that's not, but you should have enough
lab/scenario/interpretation experience by now to figure that out yourself.
Take one of the mock labs that's offered, give yourself a little extra
insight.
Otherwise, adjust your time management and mental exercises, and spend time
reviewing the DocCD of things you do know just to be sure nothing has
changed. IOS programmers have an irritating way of doing that sometimes...
Things with basic routing protocols do not always work the same as when I
originally learned them. And I'm SURE that they do that just to piss me
off. :)
But evaluate where you are, and deduce the things that likely caused the
points to not be what you thoughts they were. Divide and conquer.
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Joseph D. Phillips
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 11:12 PM
To: group study
Subject: How to move forward from a Lab failure ?
I believe the average number of failures prior to passing is three or four.
I'm going for my fourth on the 27th of this month.
Many of us have been through the same ordeal. You never know what you
missed, and your 2nd or 3rd failure at it, if you're average, isn't going to
leave you feeling like you've gotten better, even if you have.
The score reports are meaningless. I don't know why Cisco even bothers with
it.
I'll tell you what works for me. Every week or so I get together with a
study buddy. It's the only thing that keeps me sane. We don't necessarily
study all that hard, but it's great to go over what we do understand and try
to help each other learn what we don't.
Several times I've come close to quitting. It's like the war in Iraq. I
can't pull out until the job is done.
Hang in there. You'll make it somehow. Everyone that sticks to it does.
----- Original message -----
From: "Sally Crawford" <crawford0982003@yahoo.com>
To: "ccielab" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:36:15 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: How to move forward from a Lab failure ?
Hi
I recently sat the ccie lab exam and failed. I felt confident after
departing the exam, and I felt that I had a good crack at it.
Unfortunately this was not enough to pass. To some extent its easier to fail
and to know you failed , then you know where to improve. But when you leave
confident , reflection on the exam sometimes does not yield too much..
I was thinking of what to do now..... I defiantly will attempt the exam
until I pass, but what to do to improve is somewhat of a mystery.
Two schools of thought are , do more and more practice labs, and the second
is to isolate study to the areas lacking in experience/knowledge as
reflected in the score report.
On top of that I need to also focus on the new 12.2T IOS.
My train of though now is either :
1. to buy the ccie R/S lab workbook work through that, study the 12.2T
feature and then sit the exam again
2. buy the internetwork Expert book, work through that and then sit the exam
or even
3. Study the 12.2T feature + areas lacking and then sit the exam
Unfortunately the score report is a percentage score, in each area tackled
in the exam, and does not reflect weight of the section. So if you get 1 out
of 2 marks you are 50% proficient , which sometimes doesn't help.
Not too sure what I should do....anyone have any ideas.
Best Regards
Sally
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