From: Brian Dennis (bdennis@internetworkexpert.com)
Date: Wed Jul 14 2004 - 20:39:35 GMT-3
Slava,
There is no silver bullet to getting your CCIE. The path to
success is a long road of learning the technologies and topics that are
covered in the lab and some that may not be in the lab. People should
pass the CCIE lab as a byproduct of becoming a knowledgeable
internetworking engineer and not by just doing a bunch of practice labs.
People that do the latter will normally have a harder time down the road
in their careers.
One of the biggest problems that I sometimes see people face is
when they make their first lab attempt too early in their learning
process and fail. At this point the have some gaping holes in their
knowledge base and instead of going back and filling these holes in,
they just continue to do more CCIE level practice labs thinking that if
they just learn one or two more tricks or gotchas to get something like
IS-IS over Frame Relay working that they will pass the next time. It's
hard for someone in this situation to step back and reevaluate what they
really understand as they just want to pass the lab.
As far as gotchas go I personally hate the word. It's only a
gotcha if you do not understand the technology. Any training material
that lists gotchas isn't doing you a favor. In our 800+ page CCIE lab
workbook solutions guide we list ZERO gotchas. It is better that we
explain the technology so you understand it, rather than list a bunch of
gotchas. A prime example is the "no peer neighbor-route" command. I
would bet that roughly 90% of the people that use the command in their
configurations don't understand what that command is used for or how it
is even solving a problem. It's just listed somewhere as a gotcha so
they disable it.
Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
-----Original Message-----
From: Slava Lushchinskiy [mailto:Vlu@lincomp.ru]
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 1:26 PM
To: Brian Dennis; swm@emanon.com; security@groupstudy.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
....."As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab"
Could you share a secret what is a proper way of passing a lab? You may
have
10 yeas of experience and don't pass even written exam without reading
some
Cisco books.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Brian
Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 10:14 PM
To: swm@emanon.com; security@groupstudy.com
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: all September seats are gone
Many of them
tried to pass the lab by just doing CCIE level practice labs over and
over. As you know this is not the proper way to pass the lab. So it's
not that they aren't as smart as the person that passed on the first
try, it's just that they didn't learning the correct way.
Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security)
bdennis@internetworkexpert.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.InternetworkExpert.com
Toll Free: 877-224-8987
Direct: 775-745-6404 (Outside the US and Canada)
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