RE: CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs!!!

From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Jul 13 2004 - 15:59:30 GMT-3


That's an interesting solution for the problem, but exactly the right type
of thinking!

The lab is a results-based approach, at least as long as you don't violate
what may be a myriad of rules and restrictions! Since nothing was specified
regarding GRE, it is perfectly fair game for you to accomplish the correct
results. :)

This Ciscopress book, although written by lab proctors needs to be
approached in the same way as anyone else's labs. IPExpert's,
NetMasterClass', InternetworkExpert's, CCBootcamp's or whoever else's you
use... The solutions provided with the labs do NOT reflect the ONLY way to
accomplish those things. They merely reflect whatever the lab author
happened to be thinking about at that point in time or what they were used
to doing.

Great thinking though!!

 
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Rinehart
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:23 PM
To: CCIE; 'Koen Peetermans'; 'Sergio Jimenez Arguedas';
ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs!!!

I think it accurately reflects the kinds of things that can be asked, and
trust me when I say there are many ways to get the right solution.

For example, consider the requirement to send unicast RIP updates without
the neighbor command. I must have tried ten things that didn't work before
a light went off in my head. I ended up building a GRE tunnel, because that
would indeed be a unicast solution. Here is what it ended up looking like:

R3 (an old 7010, so had some limitations):

interface Tunnel0
 ip unnumbered Ethernet1/0
 tunnel source Ethernet1/0
 tunnel destination 172.16.0.1

router rip
 version 2
 passive-interface Ethernet1/0
 passive-interface Ethernet1/1
 passive-interface Serial2/0
 passive-interface Serial2/1
 passive-interface Serial2/2
 passive-interface Serial2/4
 passive-interface Serial2/5
 passive-interface Serial2/6
 passive-interface Serial2/7
 offset-list 0 in 16 Tunnel0
 offset-list 1 out 14 Tunnel0
 network 60.0.0.0
 network 172.16.0.0

R2 (a 2501):

interface Tunnel0
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 tunnel source Ethernet0
 tunnel destination 172.16.0.2

router rip
 version 2
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 172.16.0.0
 no auto-summary

The reason for the distribute-list statement on R3 is that dual routes were
being announced from R2 (one across the tunnel and one on the Ethernet
interface). But the bottom line is that it satisfied the requirements.

What disturbed me (keep in mind I go to SJ two weeks from Friday for my
fourth and hopefully last attempt) is that the answer key listed NAT as
being the solution, but since I felt my answer wass equally valid, I went to
the source---the proctor who authored the book. He is a very cool guy who
has proctored my exam previously and probably will supervise this time
around as well. In his response to me he said my solution was absolutely
valid because nothing in the requirements prohibited use of a GRE tunnel. I
felt much better after that.

It's very triue to the exam and in fact the proctor I asked the opinion of
specifically said they were designed to mirror the real thing.

Joe Rinehart
AT&T Data Network Consultant
Pacific Northwest Enterprise Markets
----- Original Message -----
From: "CCIE" <ccie@gmx.net>
To: "'Koen Peetermans'" <K.Peetermans@chello.be>; "'Sergio Jimenez
Arguedas'" <sejimenez@its.co.cr>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:48 AM
Subject: AW: CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs!!!

> Hi,
>
> Can you recommend this book? Is is worth to buy it? I go thru the first
> Sample Lab and I think this book is too strange for the real CCIE Lab.
> Especially that task to use RIP Unicast without the neighbor statement
and
> the DLSW section with(NAT). And also the part with Voice over Framrelay
wich
> is also not covered in the actual lab. I can not believe that such things
> will be in the real lab? Can someone confirme this or Iam not right?
>
> Regards
>
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] Im Auftrag von
> Koen Peetermans
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. Juli 2004 10:56
> An: 'Sergio Jimenez Arguedas'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Betreff: RE: CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs!!!
>
> Hi Sergio,
>
> I picked up the book at DHL this morning, only to find that the CD was not
> included as well..
>
> I have send a mail to ciscopress in complain about this and request the
CD.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Koen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Sergio Jimenez Arguedas
> Sent: zaterdag 10 juli 2004 0:43
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs!!!
>
> Hi Group,
>
>
> I am from Costa Rica and I bought the book in Walmart.com.
>
> I received the book this afternoon, but It didn4t have the CD. The books
> says that It has a CD with the solutions of the six labs.
>
>
> Do somebody have the CD? Can somebody send me the solutions, please?
>
>
> Rgds,
>
>
> Sergio
>
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