From: barrerj1@hotmail.com
Date: Sat Jul 10 2004 - 16:23:15 GMT-3
I don't know about AVAYA but, Mitel Ip phones support CISCO CDP and are
802.3 compliant as is the Cisco 3560
So different vendors can use the backbone and all the switching
capabilities as long as all the equip meets standards.
JB
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 2:10 PM
To: cisco@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: IP Telephony in a mid-size enterprise [7:90601]
I have to concur with Nakul; you must also look at the larger picture.
Do you have Cisco switches and routers? Cisco IP phones are designed to
work with CDP and Cisco Inline Power. CIsco IP phones work with a
Catalyst
to put a port on a voice VLAN on the fly. Catalyst IOS can do auto QOS
in
conjunction with a connected Cisco IP phone. You have to keep in mind
all of
the features that Catalyst switches have that are designed to work only
with
Cisco IP phones. If you put Avaya on the line you are not getting the
most
from or protecting your infrastructure investment.
Joe Rubino, CCNP, CCSP
Nakul Malik wrote:
>
> I wouldn't mind doing Cisco for all of my VoIP needs if I were
> you. Now,
> since you mentioned it would be a call center as well, I can
> tell you that
> we were running over 2000 seats on it successfully and had
> integrated Unity
> for messaging. Also we had IP IVRs running successfully.
> Moreover I have
> found it to work pretty well if you iron out the starting
> glitches.
> HTH
> -Nakul
>
> ""John Neiberger"" wrote in
> message
> news:200407092017.i69KHhgW024853@groupstudy.com...
> > >>> John Neiberger 7/9/04 2:04:41 PM >>>
> > >If you were involved in a brand new enterprise operation
> that required
> > VoIP
> > >connectivity for 120 locations, which vendor would you
> choose? Nortel has
> > a
> > >few options but I don't think they're the heavyweights in
> the market.
> > Cisco
> > >and Avaya seem to be the biggest players, but I don't think
> the Cisco
> > stuff
> > >is as mature as the Avaya products. ShoreTel also seems to
> have a nice
> > >solution but I don't know too much about it.
> > >
> > >So, if you could pick any vendor and you were starting
> completely from
> > >scratch, who would you choose?
> >
> > I hate to reply to my own post but I left out a couple of
> details. Let's
> say
> > that one of your sites had about 300 employees and included a
> call center.
> > The only other requirement that I could think of would be
> voice mail,
> > centralized or not. The remote sites would require 5-20
> phones per
> > location.
> >
> > Given those parameters, are there any vendors you'd
> immediately lean
> toward?
> > Alternately, are there any vendors you'd immediately lean
> away from?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
> > +------------------------------------------+
> > www.badnarik.org Badnarik for President!
> >
> > "The reason we can't find a relationship
> > between the Constitution and the
> > government is that there is none."
> >
> > -- Michael Badnarik
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