From: Joseph D. Phillips (jphillips@ufcwdrugtrust.org)
Date: Tue Jun 22 2004 - 12:43:23 GMT-3
It's a LOT easy to find a woman and get married, if you ask me. I should know.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Rinehart [mailto:jjrinehart@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 13:46
To: Fernando Rodriguez; David Napier; Richard Dumoulin
Cc: Mark Lewis; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: I just failed my first lab.
Take heart, my friend, most of us have been where you are once (or many)
times already. My last attempt (third) sounds somewhat like yours, it was
the first time I actually thought I had a shot at passing, but felt enough
misgivings to not be certain.
My second failure was the one that made me want to totally quit, I hit some
major snags because I didnt know the caveats of some protocols. There will
always be surprises, but I think the reason we all are advised to "study
everything" is to minimize the surprises. Actually my third attempt was the
first time I was REALLY ready.
You know, at times, the CCIE is a lot like dating and getting married. You
have a certain idea how things are supposed to work, but you always have to
read between the lines. Frequently you dont take something seriously
enough, or at others you overanalyze something simple. Finally, you are
expected to read someone elses mind and do the "right" thing without always
knowing if its the right thing, which you "should" have known to begin with.
Come to think of it, the CCIE is brutally easy when compared to
understanding the opposite sex.....
:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fernando Rodriguez" <fernanrl@yahoo.com>
To: "David Napier" <ccie@khetanna.com>; "Richard Dumoulin"
<richard.dumoulin@vanco.es>
Cc: "Mark Lewis" <markl11@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 1:09 AM
Subject: I just failed my first lab.
> Hi all,
>
> I had my lab in Brussels last Tuesday 15th...and I
> failed. Terrible experience for me since I was very
> nervous. I read the exam from front to back to find
> out that I could make it (big smile at the time). I
> straggled here and there but with plenty of time at
> the end just to check...How fool I was!!! After
> finishing it I left believing I was ok...just to
> realize in the hotel room that I had mistakenly done a
> few things...but just minor things so I was still
> hoping to pass...
>
> I received the mail once I was in Spain the following
> day...with the terrible word in it: FAIL :-(
>
> I checked the results and to my surprise they reckon I
> didn4t do some parts (got 0% in two of the
> sections)...WHY 0%? I can sware to God that those
> sectios were there...(easily to see whether the
> sections were working but I cannot discluse here what
> they were because of the NDA).
>
> What are they expecting to find in the configs??? I
> walk though the lab with almost 2 hours left at the
> end...I4m so down know that I doubt about the whole
> thing...after so much study, so many hours into it,
> not only my effort but my family, colleages, etc...the
> whole lot...
>
> By the way, do not ever rely on the CCO CD provided in
> the lab (at least in Brussels)...wasn4t working that
> day.
>
> I know that these are not the days I should be writing
> about this since it is still too close...What can I
> do? What should I change? What must I don for the
> future? I think I have the knowledge but now I4m not
> that sure of what I know is what Cisco wants to see in
> their labs...not real life looks to me.
>
> Please, any advise would be very much appreciated.
> Contact me off-line if you wish so.
>
> Thanks to everyone as always.
>
> Fernando
>
> P.S.- I would like to get in contact with the
> Portuguese guy that took the lab as well on the 15th.
> on June...or any of you guys that were there that
> day...just to know how you did...I hope you did well.
>
> --- David Napier <ccie@khetanna.com> escribis: > After
> lurking for the last year on this list, I'm
> > breaking my silence
> > here :)
> >
> > I suppose that I have a fairly good experience, in
> > that I am one the
> > lucky ones to pass first go. Lucky because I don't
> > really want to relive
> > the night after sitting the exam.
> >
> > My list of thank yous and advice is the same as
> > everyone else, but there
> > is something that deserves special mention. I
> > counted heavily on my
> > experience to get me through (family, work and sleep
> > got stopped many
> > study opportunities) and that almost got in the way.
> > I had to make a
> > choice whether to do what *I* would do on my
> > networks, or to answer the
> > question. We all have our preferred methods of doing
> > things in our work
> > environment as dictated by experience and best
> > practice - so be careful
> > in the exam.
> >
> > And as encouragement, nothing beats the feeling when
> > you find out that
> > you passed - you won't be fit to operate heavy
> > machinery.
> >
> >
> > David
> > #12758
> >
> > On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 07:12, Richard Dumoulin wrote:
> > > Has anyone who has passed the lab had a good
> > experience ? If so then please
> > > tell us your story, I am starting to get
> > depressed,
> > >
> > > --Richard
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mark Lewis [mailto:markl11@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: miircoles, 16 de junio de 2004 22:50
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: RE: Somewhat OT: CCIE lab temparament
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd agree with that point - I think that you
> > should feel very compfortable
> > > with all the labs in your favourite lab scenario
> > workbook (or workbooks),
> > > and should be able to complete them well within
> > the time specified.
> > >
> > > And, of course, make sure you understand *why*
> > each task in each scenario is
> > >
> > > completed in the way specified in your lab
> > solutions.
> > >
> > > Once you are able to complete your labs as
> > described above, it's a good idea
> > >
> > > to follow all the links from the online resources
> > section of the r&s ccie
> > > webpage & confirm that you have extensively
> > practiced all the subjects
> > > listed in the lab exam blueprint.
> > >
> > > When I did my lab (many moons ago), I prepared
> > assuming that I wouldn't have
> > >
> > > any time at all to reference the CD in the lab.
> > Some people prepare assuming
> > >
> > > that they'll have time to just reference anything
> > they don't know on the CD,
> > >
> > > but I personally think this may be a mistake - it
> > may lead you to be
> > > complacent.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps,
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > CCIE#6280 / CCSI#21051 / etc.
> > >
> > > Author: www.ciscopress.com/1587051044
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kenneth Wygand" <KWygand@customonline.com>
> > > >Reply-To: "Kenneth Wygand"
> > <KWygand@customonline.com>
> > > >To: "Yash Bajpai" <ccieyash@yahoo.com>,
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: Somewhat OT: CCIE lab temparament
> > > >Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:15:43 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Yash,
> > > >
> > > >Depends on a lot of variables, but without
> > knowing 90% of the topics
> > > >PERFECTLY (100%), one has very, very, very little
> > chance to pass. You
> > > >will need the 20 points on things you *THINK* you
> > know, but according
> > > >to the CCIE exam, you simply don't.
> > > >
> > > >Just my experience and my $0.02.
> > > >
> > > >Kenneth E. Wygand
> > > >Systems Engineer, Project Services
> > > >CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design
> > Specialist, MCP, CNA,
> > > >Network+, A+
> > > >Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> > > >"The only unattainable goal is the one not
> > attempted." -Anonymous
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> > > >Yash Bajpai
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 4:00 PM
> > > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > >Subject: Somewhat OT: CCIE lab temparament
> > > >
> > > >Hi all,
> > > >
> > > >I have a question for the experienced people who
> > have
> > > >taken the labs. (sorry, but iam panicking)
> > > >I am thinking that no matter what i do, there
> > would be
> > > >questions/problems in the lab that i would not
> > know how to tackle.
> > > >Technologies that i would not be very conversant.
> > > >For instance, i have not got an opportunity to
> > work on
> > > >ATM, PPOA, PPOE and i dont seem to find the right
> > docs
> > > >on the CCO too...
> > > >
> > > >what is the best way to handle things you are not
> > sure
> > > >off (or not good at?) run to the doc CD and look
> > for
> > > >config guides? try to accomplish it with whatever
> > you
> > > >know of it? or hope that you can make up 80% by
> > doing everything else
> > > >perfectly? (like i said, iam
> > > >panicking)
> > > >
> > > >or perhaps, one cannot hope to get the covetted
> > number
> > > >unless one knows everything there is to know?
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Yash
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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