Re: icmp filtering

From: ccie2be (ccie2be@nyc.rr.com)
Date: Tue Jun 08 2004 - 20:20:32 GMT-3


Richard,

I've got to agree with your sentiment there. Those 2 Brian's are amazing.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Dumoulin" <richard.dumoulin@vanco.es>
To: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>; "ccie2be"
<ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 6:25 PM
Subject: RE: icmp filtering

> Your posts are simply great. I am going to make a book with all your posts
> ;)
>
> --Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McGahan [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: miircoles, 09 de junio de 2004 0:17
> To: Richard Dumoulin; ccie2be; Group Study
> Subject: RE: icmp filtering
>
>
> inside network - R5 - outside network
> behind R5 - R5 - in front of R5
>
>
> It says behind because it's not asking for locally generated. Since
> an outbound access-list does not match locally generated traffic, it
cannot
> be evaluated without additional configuration, such as local policy
routing.
>
> See this thread for more info:
>
> http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200311/msg01170.html
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>
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> ________________________________________
> From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:richard.dumoulin@vanco.es]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 5:10 PM
> To: Brian McGahan; ccie2be; Group Study
> Subject: RE: icmp filtering
>
> Something I usually find confusing is "behind R5". How do you know what is
> behind and not ?
> Normally by using common sense I deduct that ICMP initiated from the
inside
> should be allowed to return from the outside but the word "behind"
confuses
> me, --Richard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian McGahan [mailto:bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com]
> Sent: miircoles, 09 de junio de 2004 0:02
> To: ccie2be; Group Study
> Subject: RE: icmp filtering
>
> Tim,
> What about the question and solution implies this? The question
> says:
> "Configure your network so that ICMP traffic is only allowed into your
> network if the traffic was initiated from behind R5. For diagnostic and
> troubleshooting purposes, ensure that users throughout your network are
> still able to traceroute from behind R5."
> The solution is:
> R5:
> interface Ethernet0/1
> ip access-group DENY_SNMP in
> ip access-group EVALUATE_ICMP out
> !
> ip access-list extended DENY_SNMP
> deny udp any any eq snmp
> permit icmp any any time-exceeded
> permit icmp any any unreachable
> evaluate ICMP
> deny icmp any any
> permit ip any any
> !
> ip access-list extended EVALUATE_ICMP
> permit icmp any any reflect ICMP
> permit ip any any
> Essentially you are watching ICMP traffic that is exiting:
> permit icmp any any reflect ICMP
> and you are allowing it back in only if was initiated from the
> inside:
> evaluate ICMP
> deny icmp any any
> but you are allowing trace replies back:
> permit icmp any any time-exceeded
> permit icmp any any unreachable
> How does this relate to echo or echo-reply?
> HTH,
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > ccie2be
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:40 PM
> > To: Group Study
> > Subject: icmp filtering
> >
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > I hope this isn't too dumb a question, but...
> >
> > Can someone confirm what this acl entry does?
> >
> > ip access-list ext ping
> > permit (or deny) icmp any any <-----
> >
> > In particular, does this allow all icmp message types or just
> echo-request
> > and
> > echo-reply?
> >
> > I've search the Doc Cd and the whole of cisco.com but couldn't find
> > anything definative.
> >
> > I would think it would allow ( or deny) all icmp message types but,
> I'm
> > doing
> > practice IE lab 2, task 10.8 - 10.10 and the solution seems to
> indicate
> > that
> > it only permits message types echo-request and echo-reply.
> >
> > Any feedback would be appreciated. Also, if someone knows of any
> links
> > which
> > discusses in detail, please let me know.
> >
> > TIA, Tim
> >
> >
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