From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Jun 08 2004 - 17:34:03 GMT-3
It's a whole different ball game.
That's the easiest way to describe it! The level of expertise for each of
the exams is really indicative of the breadth of subject matter. (Hmmm...
How to answer in a somewhat sane manner?)
The juniper exams will be more in depth on their appropriate topics whereas
the CCIE (particularly R&S) is spread among a LOT more topic areas. So
comparing them is kinda like deciding whether a nectarine is the same kind
of fruit as a peach. They're similar, yet completely different.
The JNCIP exam is more akin to the older ISP/Dial CCIE (obviously without
Dial, but other topics instead). The JNCIE is closer to the SP CCIE.
There's overlap from a technology standpoint, but remember, it's a Juniper
exam... So you'll be configuring Juniper routers. Not Cisco ones! I have
a habit of having problems with the show commands. I like to do "show ip
bgp" instead of just "show bgp" on the JunOS. But hey... Keeps life
interesting!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Chandradas [mailto:jachandr@cisco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 3:01 PM
To: 'Scott Morris'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: ANOTHER ONE GO...#13405
Cool.. That's great Scott. How do you find the JNCIE in terms of the depth
of extertise or compared to the level of expertise cisco does for CCIE- R&
S. Is there a lot of Juniper specific stuffs they wanted us to know or is
it the Technology as a such ? Or is there an overlap.
Just curious.
-Jay
Jay Chandradas, CCIE #8060 ( R&S , Security ) jachandr@cisco.com
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 11:41 AM
To: 'Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL)'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: ANOTHER ONE GO...#13405
Congrats! Especially on the re-read! Glad to hear a success story every
once and a while with that!
Best of luck on your JNCIE, I'm sure you'll find that to be an interesting
journey! Challenging in a different manner! I recently did the first of
the labs (JNCIP) and still have a little way to go. Fun boxes all around
though!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIP, et al. IPExpert CCIE Program Manager IPExpert Sr.
Technical Instructor swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Alexander Arsenyev (GU/ETL)
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 4:32 AM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: ANOTHER ONE GO...#13405
All,
For those who don't know me - a majority - I've been mainly a silent
listener since Jan 2003 and sometimes a contributor to this wonderful group.
Someone can probably recall the "tunnel hack" I posted here several weeks
ago to overcome the situation when OSPF area needs to be connected to the
backbone with GRE tunnel but no additional addresses are to be used. Don't
know if anyone actually used it in the lab :-) I passed after a re-read in
my second attempt (12 May 2004 in Brussels). It is definitely achievable but
You have to bear with it - my re-read took 3.5 weeks, I guess because of
non-standard approach I used to solve lab tasks. I also felt that this
non-standard approach could be counted bothways - either add You points or
take it - and Cisco seems willing to add You points if there is a chance,
not other way around. Anyway, embarking on my next trip to JNCIE - this one
should be at least as challenging as this one.
Good luck to anyone going to the CCIE lab and don't give up!
> Thanks and regards,
>
> Alex
#13405 R&S
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