RE: WAN Monitoring tool

From: Warren Chuck Contr JCIET/J6 (charles.warren@eglin.af.mil)
Date: Tue May 25 2004 - 15:14:55 GMT-3

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anyone have the nbar_mib....Cisco's web/ftp for mibs is non-functional.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Carlos G Mendioroz
> Sent: May 25, 2004 12:33 PM
> To: Clay Maney
> Cc: Anthony Pace; Kenneth Wygand; Sam Joseph; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: WAN Monitoring tool
>
>
> Sure you can do.
> NBAR has a full MIB and MRTG can graph ANY MIB variable.
> Also, you can use CBWFQ with NBAR configuration and graph
> offered versus
> accepted traffic.
>
> Also, there's another way of tackling the issue using netflow
> info. You
> make the router export netflow information to a netflow
> server, and then
> generate info from that. Dave Plonka's flowscan tool and some plugins
> for it make a nice work in that arena.
>
> Clay Maney wrote:
>
> > I did a quick google search and came across an example of someone
> > using MRTG to graph NBAR information.
> >
> > I haven't tried it, but it looks comprehensive:
> >
> > http://www.vermeer.org/display_doc.php?doc_id=6
> >
> > Clay
> >
> > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 08:51:37AM -0700, Anthony Pace wrote:
> >
> >>NBAR will break down the traffic on the router with respect to
> >>application (it even goes beyond the port and into the
> content) but I
> >>can't find a tool to create a graphical representation. You
> have to look
> >>at the counters. Does anyone know a way around this?
> >>
> >>Solarwinds is a very easy-to-use and comprehensive
> monitoring tool. It is
> >>a suite of tools for bandwidth, CPU, uptime, etc...
> >>
> >>
> >>Anthony Pace CCIE 10349
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, 25 May 2004 11:43:33 -0400, "Kenneth Wygand"
> >><KWygand@customonline.com> said:
> >>
> >>>I've used PRTG in the past and it works great! However, it
> only shows
> >>>you circuit utilization. Suppose I wanted to see not only
> _HOW MUCH_
> >>>traffic is going over the circuit, but _WHAT_ is going
> over the circuit.
> >>>It would be nice to filter this information based on
> source IP address,
> >>>etc. but sometimes this level of detail is not necessary. Suppose,
> >>>however, that I wanted to see if all of the traffic on an
> OC3 circuit
> >>>was FTP or Internet Radio? I believe Netflow switching is
> a component of
> >>>doing the trick, but can you gather basic information
> simply from CLI
> >>>commands? Can you dump log files to a syslog server? Or
> do you need an
> >>>actual management suite application, such as Ciscoworks
> with the WAN/QoS
> >>>functionality?
> >>>
> >>>Does anyone have any recommendations?
> >>>
> >>>Kenneth E. Wygand
> >>>Systems Engineer, Project Services
> >>>CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design
> Specialist, MCP, CNA,
> >>>Network+, A+
> >>>Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> >>>"The only unattainable goal is the one not attempted."
> >>>-Anonymous
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Clay Maney [mailto:clay@pronettech.com]
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:29 AM
> >>>To: Kenneth Wygand
> >>>Cc: Sam Joseph; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>>Subject: Re: WAN Monitoring tool
> >>>
> >>>I responded directly and forgot to respond to the group with this:
> >>>
> >>>On top of the MRTG/PRTG type tools, there's also one that
> I sometimes
> >>>use for immediate (non-historical) snmp bandwidth graphing
> called STG.
> >>>The only downside is that it only runs on Windows. It is *very*
> >>>straightforward if you need some quick info and polls the interface
> >>>once per second by default.
> >>>
> >>>You can get it here: http://leonidvm.chat.ru/
> >>>
> >>>Clay
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:22:11AM -0400, Kenneth Wygand wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>MRTG (Unix) or PRTG (x86 Windows Variant)
> >>>>
> >>>>PRTG:
> >>>>http://www.paessler.com
> >>>>
> >>>>Kenneth E. Wygand
> >>>>Systems Engineer, Project Services
> >>>>CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, Cisco IPT Design
> Specialist, MCP, CNA,
> >>>>Network+, A+
> >>>>Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> >>>>"The only unattainable goal is the one not attempted."
> >>>>-Anonymous
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >>>
> >>>Of
> >>>
> >>>>Sam Joseph
> >>>>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 11:06 PM
> >>>>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>>>Subject: WAN Monitoring tool
> >>>>
> >>>>Dear Group,
> >>>>
> >>>>What are best methods of monitoring the frame-relay
> between two sites
> >>>>other
> >>>>than beleiving what my ISP says?. I feel the circuit is nearing
> >>>>saturation.
> >>>>I did some ping tests when i get complaints from users,
> the ping time
> >>>
> >>>is
> >>>
> >>>>terrible. The ping time is anywhere between 1000 msec
> .... to time
> >>>>outs.Looked at the Interface Queue on the router (3810) and that
> >>>>doesn't
> >>>>look better either.
> >>>>
> >>>>I would like to monitor this circuit with a better tool?. Any
> >>>
> >>>ideas????
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks in Advance,
> >>>>
> >>>>---Sam.
> >>>>
> >>>>_________________________________________________________________
> >>>>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now!
> >>>>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>___________________________________________________________
> ____________
> >>>
> >>>>Please help support GroupStudy by purchasing your study materials
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> >>>
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>
> >>--
> >> Anthony Pace
> >> anthonypace@fastmail.fm
> >>
> >>--
> >>http://www.fastmail.fm - The way an email service should be
> >
> >
> >
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anyone have the nbar_mib....Cisco's web/ftp for mibs =
is non-functional.

> -----Original Message-----
 > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com">mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com</A>]O=
n Behalf Of
 > Carlos G Mendioroz
 > Sent: May 25, 2004 12:33 PM
 > To: Clay Maney
 > Cc: Anthony Pace; Kenneth Wygand; Sam Joseph; =
ccielab@groupstudy.com
 > Subject: Re: WAN Monitoring tool
 > 
 > 
 > Sure you can do.
 > NBAR has a full MIB and MRTG can graph ANY MIB =
variable.
 > Also, you can use CBWFQ with NBAR configuration =
and graph 
 > offered versus 
 > accepted traffic.
 > 
 > Also, there's another way of tackling the issue =
using netflow 
 > info. You 
 > make the router export netflow information to a =
netflow 
 > server, and then 
 > generate info from that. Dave Plonka's flowscan =
tool and some plugins 
 > for it make a nice work in that arena.
 > 
 > Clay Maney wrote:
 > 
 > > I did a quick google search and came =
across an example of someone
 > > using MRTG to graph NBAR =
information.
 > > 
 > > I haven't tried it, but it looks =
comprehensive:
 > > 
 > > <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.vermeer.org/display_doc.php?doc_id=3D6" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.vermeer.org/display_doc.php?doc_id=3D6><=
/FONT>
 > > 
 > > Clay
 > > 
 > > On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 08:51:37AM -0700, =
Anthony Pace wrote:
 > > 
 > >>NBAR will break down the traffic on the =
router with respect to
 > >>application (it even goes beyond the =
port and into the 
 > content) but I
 > >>can't find a tool to create a graphical =
representation. You 
 > have to look
 > >>at the counters. Does anyone know a way =
around this? 
 > >>
 > >>Solarwinds is a very easy-to-use and =
comprehensive 
 > monitoring tool. It is
 > >>a suite of tools for bandwidth, CPU, =
uptime, etc...
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>Anthony Pace CCIE 10349
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>
 > >>On Tue, 25 May 2004 11:43:33 -0400, =
"Kenneth Wygand"
 > >><KWygand@customonline.com> =
said:
 > >>
 > >>>I've used PRTG in the past and it =
works great! However, it 
 > only shows
 > >>>you circuit utilization. Suppose I =
wanted to see not only 
 > _HOW MUCH_
 > >>>traffic is going over the circuit, =
but _WHAT_ is going 
 > over the circuit.
 > >>>It would be nice to filter this =
information based on 
 > source IP address,
 > >>>etc. but sometimes this level of =
detail is not necessary. Suppose,
 > >>>however, that I wanted to see if =
all of the traffic on an 
 > OC3 circuit
 > >>>was FTP or Internet Radio? I =
believe Netflow switching is 
 > a component of
 > >>>doing the trick, but can you gather =
basic information 
 > simply from CLI
 > >>>commands?  Can you dump log =
files to a syslog server?  Or 
 > do you need an
 > >>>actual management suite =
application, such as Ciscoworks 
 > with the WAN/QoS
 > >>>functionality?
 > >>>
 > >>>Does anyone have any =
recommendations?
 > >>>
 > >>>Kenneth E. Wygand 
 > >>>Systems Engineer, Project =
Services
 > >>>CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, =
Cisco IPT Design 
 > Specialist, MCP, CNA,
 > >>>Network+, A+
 > >>>Custom Computer Specialists, Inc. =

 > >>>"The only unattainable goal is =
the one not attempted."
 > >>>-Anonymous
 > >>>
 > >>>-----Original Message-----
 > >>>From: Clay Maney [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:clay@pronettech.com">mailto:clay@pronettech.com</A>] =

 > >>>Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 11:29 =
AM
 > >>>To: Kenneth Wygand
 > >>>Cc: Sam Joseph; =
ccielab@groupstudy.com
 > >>>Subject: Re: WAN Monitoring =
tool
 > >>>
 > >>>I responded directly and forgot to =
respond to the group with this:
 > >>>
 > >>>On top of the MRTG/PRTG type tools, =
there's also one that 
 > I sometimes
 > >>>use for immediate (non-historical) =
snmp bandwidth graphing 
 > called STG.
 > >>>The only downside is that it only =
runs on Windows.  It is *very*
 > >>>straightforward if you need some =
quick info and polls the interface
 > >>>once per second by default.
 > >>>
 > >>>You can get it here: <A =
HREF=3D"http://leonidvm.chat.ru/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://leonidvm.chat.ru/>
 > >>>
 > >>>Clay
 > >>>
 > >>>On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 10:22:11AM =
-0400, Kenneth Wygand wrote:
 > >>>
 > >>>>MRTG (Unix) or PRTG (x86 =
Windows Variant)
 > >>>>
 > >>>>PRTG:
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.paessler.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.paessler.com>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>Kenneth E. Wygand 
 > >>>>Systems Engineer, Project =
Services
 > >>>>CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, ACSP, =
Cisco IPT Design 
 > Specialist, MCP, CNA,
 > >>>>Network+, A+
 > >>>>Custom Computer Specialists, =
Inc. 
 > >>>>"The only unattainable =
goal is the one not attempted."
 > >>>>-Anonymous
 > >>>>
 > >>>>-----Original =
Message-----
 > >>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com =

 > [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com">mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com</A>] =
On Behalf
 > >>>
 > >>>Of
 > >>>
 > >>>>Sam Joseph
 > >>>>Sent: Monday, May 24, 2004 =
11:06 PM
 > >>>>To: =
ccielab@groupstudy.com
 > >>>>Subject: WAN Monitoring tool =

 > >>>>
 > >>>>Dear Group,
 > >>>>
 > >>>>What are best methods of =
monitoring the frame-relay 
 > between two sites
 > >>>>other 
 > >>>>than beleiving what my ISP =
says?. I feel the circuit is nearing
 > >>>>saturation. 
 > >>>>I did some ping tests when i =
get complaints from users, 
 > the ping time
 > >>>
 > >>>is
 > >>>
 > >>>>terrible. The ping time is =
anywhere between 1000 msec 
 > .... to time 
 > >>>>outs.Looked at the Interface =
Queue on the router (3810)  and that
 > >>>>doesn't 
 > >>>>look better either.
 > >>>>
 > >>>>I would like to monitor this =
circuit with a better tool?. Any
 > >>>
 > >>>ideas????
 > >>>
 > >>>>Thanks in Advance,
 > >>>>
 > >>>>---Sam.
 > >>>>
 > =
>>>>________________________________________________________=
_________
 > >>>>FREE pop-up blocking with the =
new MSN Toolbar =16 get it now! 
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/dir=
ect/01/</A>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>
 > =
>>>___________________________________________________________<=
/FONT>
 > ____________
 > >>>
 > >>>>Please help support GroupStudy =
by purchasing your study materials
 > >>>
 > >>>from:
 > >>>
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://shop.groupstudy.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://shop.groupstudy.com>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>Subscription information may be =
found at: 
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html>=

> >>>>
 > >>>>
 > >>>
 > =
>>>___________________________________________________________<=
/FONT>
 > ____________
 > >>>
 > >>>>Please help support GroupStudy =
by purchasing your study materials
 > >>>
 > >>>from:
 > >>>
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://shop.groupstudy.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://shop.groupstudy.com>
 > >>>>
 > >>>>Subscription information may be =
found at: 
 > >>>><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html>=

> >>>
 > =
>>>___________________________________________________________<=
/FONT>
 > ____________
 > >>>Please help support GroupStudy by =
purchasing your study 
 > materials from:
 > >>><A =
HREF=3D"http://shop.groupstudy.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://shop.groupstudy.com>
 > >>>
 > >>>Subscription information may be =
found at: 
 > >>><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html>=

> >>
 > >>-- 
 > >>  Anthony Pace
 > >>  anthonypace@fastmail.fm
 > >>
 > >>-- 
 > >><A HREF=3D"http://www.fastmail.fm" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.fastmail.fm> - The way an email service =
should be
 > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > =

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