From: Richard Dumoulin (richard.dumoulin@vanco.es)
Date: Fri Apr 30 2004 - 17:45:40 GMT-3
Howard, do you have more specific reading recommendations for security ?
Thanks --Richard
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From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:hcb@gettcomm.com]
Sent: viernes, 30 de abril de 2004 22:34
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Cleared SP Lab in RTP
At 4:13 PM -0400 4/30/04, Deepesh Chouhan wrote:
>Hey folks
>
>Cleared my SP lab yesterday (April 29th) in RTP on my first attempt.
First, congratulations!
>My reading list includes
>========================
>0 CCO and UniverCD
>1 Jeff Doyle - I and II
>2 MPLS and VPN Architectures, CCIPT Edition
> By Ivan Pepelnjak and Jim Guichard
>3 Advanced MPLS Design and Implementation By Vivek Alwayn
>4 IP Quality of Service By Srinivas Vegesna
I'll come back to this, but this is a perfectly reasonable list for
the SP examination. If you are actually looking for a job in the SP
(or SP equipment vendor) world, the most important thing to start is
to begin lurking on relevant mailing lists, such as NANOG, Cisco-NSP
(and Juniper-NSP if relevant), Inet-Access, perhaps some of the IETF
working groups (e.g., MPLS and IDR, the latter of which is
responsible for BGP), etc. After you feel like you have a sense of
the list, start commenting -- in the IETF world, you get appreciated
very quickly by authors even if you just do an
editing/understandability check on Internet Drafts!
Next, there will be a lot of RFCs and Internet Drafts, most commonly
from IDR and MPLS, but from other groups as well. With my coauthors,
I just finished an I-D on single-router BGP control plane convergence
terminology, which might clarify a lot of things. We need to include
a few suggestions from the IESG, and then it will be sent off to
become an RFC.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-05.txt
If you are interested in VoIP or security, there are separate groups
for that. Also, there are assorted "forum" groups, such as the
Multiservice and Metro Ethernet Forums, which are more vendor. The
forums are most important if you think you will get concerned with
metropolitan area networking.
>
>Coming from R&S, should I do SP ===============================
>I was stuck with this question myself. Hopefully my experience might
>help some of you to make a decision.
One question is whether you want to be in the SP business, which
often is culturally very different than enterprises. Data-oriented
SPs are often very different from telephone SPs. I would tend to
suggest the Cisco SP certification won't have a lot of weight in
getting a SP routing job, but it may help in tasks for security and
voice. If you do want the routing work, you will probably need to see
and be seen in some of the standards and operations groups.
>(Disclaimer : this is my personal opinion. Not a general, official or
>majority opinion) SP lab needs tons of hands on experience with MPLS,
>MBGP, SP-QoS, SP-Multicast etc.
>You wont need it normally in an enterprise enviornment. This makes it
>difficult to pick up those topics and master them. Also number of
>routers to practice scenarios (e.g. Inter-AS, Carrier's Carrier) etc is
>a lot. Some of the features are only available on certain platforms and
>images. Needs lots of practice times too. Hence overall difficulty level
>is more than R&S.
>So bottomline - go through the trouble and sacrifice if you really need
>it (job requirement or career aspirations or any other reason).
>Otherwise R&S is just fine :)
>
>Thanks
>Deepesh
>CCIE # 12046 - R&S, Security, Service Provider
>
Books for the service provider world, where I obviously have a
commercial interest.
Greene and Smith, Cisco ISP Essentials (Cisco Press)
Berkowitz, WAN Survival Guide (Wiley) -- enterprise side of the ISP
connection
Berkowitz, Building Service Provider Networks (Wiley) -- internal SP
side
Huston, ISP Survival Guide (Wiley) -- more the economics
Ginsburg and Hattar, Implementing IP Services at the Network Edge
(Addison-Wesley)
Abe, Residential Broadband (Cisco Press)
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