From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Apr 20 2004 - 21:32:25 GMT-3
Well said!
Scott Morris, CCIE4 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713, CISSP,
JNCIS, et al.
IPExpert CCIE Program Manager
IPExpert Sr. Technical Instructor
swm@emanon.com/smorris@ipexpert.net
http://www.ipexpert.net
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Jonathan Hays
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 7:24 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: boot camp again :)
you wrote:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>Bill Lijewski
>Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 3:47 PM
>To: 'Brian McGahan'; 'Edward Kelly'; 'Volodymyr Levytskyy';
>ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: boot camp again :) [bcc][faked-from]
>
>
>I would agree with Brian. Most of the people that I talk to are
>frustrated with the grading on the exam. They don't know why they
>didn't receive full credit for a section and they get no feedback from
>Cisco.
[snip]
= = =
While I don't disagree with anything Bill said in his post, I have to stick
my neck out and state that there _is_ a way you can get more feedback on
what the "Cisco Solution" is to the lab exam.
The vast majority of candidates do NOT take full advantage of the proctors.
I have learned a lot about the "Cisco Solution" to the lab exam by
constantly bugging the proctors during the (many) times I have taken the
exam and every single time I have asked at least 2 or 3 times as many
questions as anyone else in the room. I don't think I ever let more than 20
minutes go by without asking the proctor a question. I think this is the
reason my scores consistently increased from exam to exam. If you don't have
the time to ask 15 to 25 questions of the proctor then you are not
adequately prepared when you walk into the exam room. To give you some idea
of what I mean, except for my first attempt, I had plenty of time to ask my
20 questions PLUS spend a couple of hours searching the Doc CD for those
obscure commands that drive everyone crazy (except for the maniacs that
somehow find the time to read the entire Doc CD. ;-)
Of course, usually you have to have _some_ idea of what the question is
about and what your own approach might be when you go up to ask a clarifying
question, although some questions may be useful in simply understanding the
question. But once you are at that point of understanding the question, you
can ask additional questions like, "does the problem constraint hold true
under condition X?" or "does the problem constraint depend on this, in the
previous section" or "I interpret this as implying X or do they really mean
Y?" With enough questions you soon learn what types of questions are useless
and what questions will help you get the "Cisco Solution".
HTH,
Jonathan
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