From: Tom Larus (tlarus@cox.net)
Date: Mon Apr 19 2004 - 11:22:06 GMT-3
That does not sound right. Maybe a whole bunch of people let their CCIEs lapse in those months, so the growth in the number of CCIEs was so small, but that seems unlikely.
Maybe not as many people are taking the Lab because they are failing the written exam. Anyone have any ideas?
Tom Larus
>
> From: <sustundag@secura.com.tr>
> Date: 2004/04/19 Mon AM 09:20:59 EDT
> To: <BFaber@wvadmin.gov>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Subject: RE: boot camp
>
> I doubt update frequency of that datas...
> In a whole month are there only 13 passer in all US wow
> It is very low I think...???
>
>
> Serkan Ustundag
>
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> CCNP,CCDP,CCSE
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>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Faber [mailto:BFaber@wvadmin.gov]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:01 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: boot camp
>
> I have been keeping track of the number of CCIEs in the US the last three months via Cisco's website, In February - 13 passed, in March- 27 passed. Wonder how many people went to bootcamps in the US in those two months?
>
> My .02.
>
> Bill
>
> >>> "Allan Wells" <wellse@bigpond.net.au> 04/17/04 12:50PM >>>
> The bootcamps certainly give a great insight into what is expected and they
> guide the way for you to pass.If you have some solid experience and
> understand the fundamentals you have a good chance to pass.So go for it at
> the worst you know where you stand after the camp.It is not nice not knowing
> what to expect in the lab attending a bootcamp will make you understand
> different scenarios which are simmilar to the lab.
>
> Some bootcamps offer free return to bootcamp seats permitting if you fail.
>
> So they are fairly confident if you have some good exposure to Cisco
> equipent and implementation you should pass.
> Why offer this otherwise it doesnt make good business sense to have hords
> coming back.You would go broke wouldnt you ?
>
> Lets be honest there all in the money making market and good luck to them.
> 4k a week 8 - 10 students per class 48 weeks a year BINGO $1.92million.If
> the courses were $1000 a week theri would be 45000 CCIE's no one really
> wants that I believe their must be at least 45 -50 passing every week now.
>
> But Bootcamps offer someing that people want to further their carreers
> knowledge Employees do feel confortable haveing CCIE's at work .
>
> Although the courses and well overpriced for individuls to pay themselves
> hopefully your company can fork up the cash for your hardwork and loyalty
> over the years.
>
> Bootcamps-->.You can never know everthing and will always learn something
> and be refreshed on technology perhaps you have not been working with
> "SNA,MC,QoS" whatever.
> Plus the opportunity to meet some fantastic people who share a simmilar goal
> the NUMBER !!
>
> Everyone is at different stages you may pass first go these thing shappen
> every week.
>
> Give it a go you wont be dissapoinetd.
>
>
> Godd Luck.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Administrator" <Administrator@standardaerotech.ca>
> To: "'Volodymyr Levytskyy'" <vovan@shaw.ca>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:48 PM
> Subject: RE: boot camp
>
>
> > What a crock of crap that is. The bootcamp helped me see where I am and
> > what level I was at. It gave me a chance to see where I stood in respect
> > to myself, and the other people in the class. It gave me a venue to
> discuss
> > issues with other real live people. The bootcamp that I went to showed me
> > my areas of weakness, and for 6 months since then I have been bustin my
> a$$
> > to get ready for my first title shot at the CCIE belt.
> >
> > To say that the bootcamps make you pass the lab exam only is BS. Its
> > actually disrespectful to all the people here and the people that teach
> the
> > bootcamp. 5 days does not make you CCIE material, period. I took my
> > bootcamp in Novemeber. I have been doing labs 8 to 10 hours a day every
> day
> > since then. The bootcamp showed me that I had a lot to learn, and then I
> > went in that direction.
> >
> > As far as I know, there is no easy way to win this battle, to even say
> that
> > is crap.
> >
> > Christian
> > CCIE # (fill in here hopefully soon)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Volodymyr Levytskyy [mailto:vovan@shaw.ca]
> > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:28 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: boot camp
> >
> >
> > Hey people
> >
> > Any comments about different bootcamp. ccbootcamp, ipexpert,
> netmasterclass,
> > ...
> > I heard a lot of people taking boot camp and next day going to take lab
> > exam. Seems like boot camp help to pass lab exam only... But I can be
> > wrong... :)))
> >
> > Thanks...
> > Vlad
> >
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