From: Scott Morris (swm@emanon.com)
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 23:01:12 GMT-3
Now Howard.... This "is" not something that is necessarily specific to this
profession or certification. In all walks of life I come across people who
should not be allowed in front of customers or damn-near anyone for that
matter because of their inate inability to converse in any sort of
professional level.
Whether a good thing or a bad thing, not very many professions have useful
requirements like public speaking, business conversation, writing (technical
or otherwise) or anything like that.
Whether we view this as a sad state of the world, or just a lack in
professional standards I'm not quite sure. I have met CCIE's who can't
reasonably subnet. I have met doctors and nurses much more comfortable with
inanimate objects that measure things in exciting ways but don't speak. I
have met attorneys who are proficient at arguing to the expense of being
able to hold a conversation where no "winner" exists. I have met McDonalds'
employees who appear amazed that cheese is REALLY supposed to be on a
Quarter Pounder (because the "w/cheese" is in lower-case which must make it
optional).
So... I guess, my dear Jedi Master, it depends on what your definition of
"is" is... Hmmmm...
;)
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Howard C. Berkowitz
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:39 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: NetMasterClass training
At 5:05 PM +0000 3/23/04, jgraun@comcast.net wrote:
>Thank you Tom I am glad you understand what must be done. You see, I
>have meet CCIE's that cannot redistribute between two routing protocols
>and dont know what proxy arp is! Why is that everybody has this
>opinion that going into the computer field is easy?! Do you see
>construction workers switching to become CPA's or Lawyers?
>NO! And there is a reason. I have seen too many people that have no
>business touching a production system getting paid well and being
>idiots. It is very frustrating when you have all these hacks that
>think they are your peer and they cannot spell the word computer.
>
Frustrating? An understatement, and I speak literally of your
example. Something I see all too frequently on groupstudy is very
nonstandard spelling, probably in the style of people who make much
use of instant messaging. I can understand this, to an extent, for
people for whom English is not their first language, because they may
not see as much proper writing.
While it isn't formally part of any Cisco exam, the ability to write
coherent and professional English is going to be important in getting
through hiring and, at the very least, advancing in the job.
Ignoring Dilbertian Pointy-Haired Bosses, one of the distinguishing
marks of someone that moves up the professional ladder is the ability
to teach, the ability to document well enough that someone can
understand what they did without personal interpretation, and the
ability to communicate to nontechnical managers and clients.
"What u have 2 do 2 ur puter" simply doesn't cut it [0]. It doesn't
even improve communication here. In many respects, this mailing list
is a practice environment for real jobs. It's as good a place as any
to get into the habits of clear writing.
[0] I am _not_ going to be drawn into Clintonian discussions of the meaning
of "it" or "is". Fool Yoda not is!
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