From: Howard C. Berkowitz (hcb@gettcomm.com)
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 15:11:04 GMT-3
At 1:04 PM -0500 3/23/04, Thomas Larus wrote:
>Excellent advice! I have found that my first-glance understanding of
>something is often wrong. For example, when answering questions on the
>support site for my book, I have at least twice drafted an answer, and then
>realized while editing before posting that my first answer was way off,
>because it answered a slightly different question from what was asked. I
>can see how what you describe could happen.
>
Fairly recently, at the suggestion of my lady friend over the
holdidays, I grew a beard (still in beta), there are times beforehand
that I was nervous about shaving. Sometimes, I would compose articles
or books in my head while doing so, and, if I ever caught myself
saying "it is obvious that", I promised I would cut my throat.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jonathan Hays" <nomad@gfoyle.org>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:41 PM
>Subject: RE: NetMasterClass training
>
>
>> you wrote:
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>> >Behalf Of Thomas Larus
>> >Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 12:18 PM
>> >To: John Matijevic; 'Jason Graun'; 'Sam Meftahi'; 'Richard
>> >Dumoulin'; 'CHIONG, ERWIN R (ASI)'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> >Subject: Re: NetMasterClass training
>> >
>> >
>> >Did you read the entire post, including the SARCASM alert at
>> >the end (in all
>> >capital letters)? I admit the email was a bit long, but it
>> >should be clear
>> >that I agree with you wholeheartedly.
>> >
>> >Tom Larus, CCIE #10,014
>> >Author of CCIE Warm-Up: Advice and Learning Labs
>> >http://www.ipexpert.com/products_services/product.asp?sku=ip7777
>> >
>> >
>> = = =
>> Tom,
>>
>> You make a good point. I will go into pedantic mode and attempt to
>> extend this as a lesson in reading lab requirements, be it a practice
>> lab or the real lab booklet.
>>
>> Most people who have sat for the exam or have been following this forum
>> for a while probably realize that understanding the techie stuff
>> (protocols, IOS, networking, etc.) is not enough to pass the lab exam.
>> Part of successfully passing the CCIE lab means reading and
>> understanding EVERYTHING very carefully. And if you are like most of us,
>> you aren't one of these geniuses who understands every word and its
>> every nuance the first time through. So you must reread the lab
>> requirement several times - I think a minimum of three times. Read it
>> twice before configuring and reread it once again after you are
>> convinced you have configured correctly.
>>
>> (Side note. I know I will step on a few toes here. But having sat the
>> CCIE lab exam several times last year, it is my opinion that this advice
>> of reading the lab booklet all the way through prior to doing anything
>> else is a lot of nonsense and a complete waste of time. I'll say no
>> more. Just my opinion.)
>>
>> I had a personal tendency when I first started serious study for the lab
>> exam (a couple of years ago) to read a requirement quickly (either for a
>> practice lab or the real lab) and jump right into configuration mode. Or
>> for that matter, I tended to skim through a GroupStudy post, hit the
>> REPLY button and whip off a reactionary answer. Studying for the CCIE
>> lab has (almost) cured me of that habit. When you finish reading a
>> requirement (or a Groupstudy post) you need to stop, weigh and consider
>> before acting or reacting. Then go back and read again and verify if
>> what you have concluded it true.
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
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