From: Scott, Tyson C (tyson.scott@hp.com)
Date: Tue Mar 23 2004 - 13:19:18 GMT-3
It is invaluable to learn the RFC's, which is the theory behind
the practice. You can do this without a class, you just have to read
all the RFC's and study them and I am pretty sure if you have the time
to read all the RFC's, (as was suggested when watching the recent CISCO
LIVE Event) you will understand it even better than if you go to a
class.
I personally don't have the time for studying all of these so
learning from people that have taken the time to study this material and
work hours and hours in the lab to find the way everything really should
work and does work, (understanding that the CCO is never wrong :)) is
very helpful.
But to everyman his own; not to be condescending or anything,
but to say a certain vendor is the only way to go is somewhat short
sighted. As I have found out in being on this forum there are a lot of
vendors with ample knowledge. The decision I believe is what group is
going to best help you in your current situation and knowledge level. I
have found some things to be better between various groups but that is
only after my own personal research and knowing what help I needed did I
come to that conclusion.
I have to say many thanks to the various trainers that are here
on Group Study. That help the weaklings like myself to understand the
technologies better. There is no question, the majority of the answers
on this group; which require a deep understanding of the topics and have
great explanations of the topic, come from the various trainers who
chose to help us out. I think if it was not for them being on here I
would have requested to be removed from this group not long after being
on here.
Not to discount the help by other people who are working,
including myself, towards the goal of CCIE status. But all of us, in my
opinion, have built our knowledge on top of the shoulders of others,
most of which are the vendors answering our questions in here.
Regards,
Tyson Scott
Agilent Problem Management Team
Managed Network Services
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
CHIONG, ERWIN R (ASI)
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 3:02 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: NetMasterClass training
I just completed a very intensive 5-day course from NetMasterClass in
preparation for the CCIE lab, and discovered more about this intriguing
technology than just trying to obtain the certification. I finally
realized
the big difference between learning the technology and understanding the
technology. I'm sure most of us can learn the technology by studying
24x7
(and eventually pass the lab). But, understanding the theory and
applications behind the different protocols and integrating them
together is
another story.
The instructors and staff at NetMasterClass really know how to help
build
this understanding. At first, I was a bit apprehensive in paying for the
course myself. But after experiencing how much they truly care about
teaching how the technology works and helping you understand the theory
and
its applications (rather than just helping you pass the lab), I now know
that their NMC2 course goes beyond the CCIE certification. For all the
engineers who are really serious about this industry (not just for the
certification), the NetMasterClass training is highly recommended. (and
no,
I am not affiliated with the company...just a student of this industry
who
wishes to share my experience)
PS. Thanks to Groupstudy and their CCIE participants for doing a great
job
in helping the rest of us improve our skills.
Regards,
Erwin
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