From: Jonathan Hays (nomad@gfoyle.org)
Date: Fri Mar 19 2004 - 10:50:05 GMT-3
Sorry to give the impression I am angry - this is NOT the case - just
slightly annoyed. My post was meant to be a gentle, humorous reminder
for people to include their sources when they offer information.
Regarding your post, if someone else claims that they know the source
you are referring to but you do not confirm this, then how do we know
whether or not the other person is correct or mistaken about your
reference? It is really your responsibility to confirm it, to be sticky
about it.
Since I have used up so much bandwidth grumbling about imprecise posts,
I feel the need to contribute. Below are some of my favorite links for
ISIS information:
Cisco Press Chapter - PDF
<http://ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/2283newchap2.
pdf?s>
http://ciscopress.com/content/images/1578702283/downloads/2283newchap2.p
df?s
ISIS Support Page
<http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/browse/psp_view.pl?p=Internetwork
ing:ISIS&viewall=true>
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/browse/psp_view.pl?p=Internetworki
ng:ISIS&viewall=true
Great Groupstudy Post by Kym Blair
<http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200304/msg01890.html>
http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200304/msg01890.html
ISIS Authentication
<http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/97/isis_authent.html>
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/97/isis_authent.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dumoulin [mailto:richard.dumoulin@vanco.es]
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:03 AM
To: Jonathan Hays; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Lab Tips
Jonathan, this was already answered by someone. This is why I did not
answered. But if you are getting angry then here is the link again ;)
<http://www.certificationzone.com/cisco/studyguides/?module=studyguides&
action=showov&id=35>
http://www.certificationzone.com/cisco/studyguides/?module=studyguides&a
ction=showov&id=35
I did not want to ignore you,
Regards,
--Richard
-----Mensaje original-----
De: Jonathan Hays [ <mailto:nomad@gfoyle.org> mailto:nomad@gfoyle.org]
Enviado el: viernes, 19 de marzo de 2004 13:49
Para: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Asunto: RE: Lab Tips
I notice the original poster has still not posted the source of the
paper he cited below.
I apologize in advance to those who don't like to hear me grumble. But I
wish that people would provide specifics when they state information or
refer people to a source. That means web links, book title and author,
ISBN, etc.
I find it really annoying to see posts like "Yeah, I think I HEARD
SOMEWHERE that ISIS sets the ATT bit during the full moon . . ."
or
"There's a great new book on that subject, but I can't remember the
title, author, or publisher..."
Thanks in advance,
;-)
Jonathan
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [ <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>
mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>Behalf Of Jonathan Hays
>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 7:25 PM
>To: 'Richard Dumoulin'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Lab Tips
>
>
>Where is this paper? Please provide the link.
>
>Thanks
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [ <mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com>
mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>>Behalf Of Richard Dumoulin
>>Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 5:54 PM
>>To: Packet Man; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: RE: Lab Tips
>>
>>
>>Packet Man, if you feel weak in ISIS, then Peter Van Oene paper on the
>>subject is great. You'll love ISIS,
>>
>>--Richard
>>
>>-----Mensaje original-----
>>De: Packet Man [ <mailto:ccie2b@hotmail.com>
mailto:ccie2b@hotmail.com]
>>Enviado el: jueves, 18 de marzo de 2004 22:59
>>Para: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Asunto: Lab Tips
>>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I've created a "Lab Tips" file of small items - factoids, reminders,
>>suggestions, etc, I tend to forget. This is something I can refer to
>>constantly when I'm doing practice labs or just have a few
>>minutes to spare.
>>
>>Here's a snippet from my Tips file.
>>
>>BGP
>>Hard code router-id
>>Don't use loopbacks for ibgp peering unless explicitly required
>>Look for nei ... next-hop-self requirement especially on F/R hub and
>>ethernets
>>Disable bgp client to client reflection when clients are fully meshed
>>Turn off auto-sum & sync unless explicitly required
>>Reset BGP sessions using hard reset rather than soft reset.
>>Know how to config nei xxxx local-as in combo with RR.
>>Know all ways to config dampening
>>
>>I'm sharing this with GS because I suspect many candidates
>>might also have
>>something like this. And, I thought that with all the great
>>brain power
>>among GS subscribers we could all help each other by adding
>>tips to such a
>>file.
>>
>>Here's my definition of what makes for a good tip.
>>
>>1) A tip may not in any way violate the NDA
>>2) A good tip should be something that might be easily
>>forgotten because
>>it's not that often encountered or somehow different from the
>>ordinary. For
>>
>>example, when configuring ISIS over frame relay, don't forget
>>to enter the
>>"fram map clns <dlci> broadcast" statement. For me, this is a
>>good tip
>>because I personally don't practice ISIS that often and I seem
>>to almost
>>always forget that command.
>>
>>3) A good tip must be short and clear because the whole idea
>>behind this
>>file is to provide a quick reminder of various networking
>>facts that can
>>come in handy during the actual lab.
>>
>>4) A good tip must should not waste time going into the "why"
>>of the fact or
>>
>>all the various permutations. For that, anyone interested can
>>research the
>>"why" of the fact on their own.
>>
>>5) A good tip for one person might not be at all useful to
>>someone else. We
>>
>>each tend to remember and forget different things. But, for
>>example, over
>>time the BGP tips section may include 30 items and while I
>>doubt all 30
>>items will be useful to all people, I'm sure that 5 or 10 or
>>15 of the tips
>>will be useful to many people - just that it won't be the same
>>5 or 10 or 15
>>
>>tips.
>>
>>6) A good tip must be potentially relevant to a ccie R&S candidate.
>>Therefore, I ask that Off Topic comments be submitted
>>elsewhere - Let's keep
>>
>>posts with the subject "Lab Tips" focus on just that.
>>
>>It's my hope that over time, with the input of a lots of
>>people here, this
>>lab tips file will grow to include tips that cover every topic
>>potentially
>>on the R&S lab exam. And, that as a result, we can each add the most
>>personally valuable tips from this group effort to our own lab
>>tips file.
>>
>>Right now, my tips file has no entries for voice. So, I'd
>>like to start off
>>
>>by asking people to submit their voice config tips. Of course,
>>tips on any
>>potential lab are also welcomed.
>>
>>Here are some other potential tips topics I hope people feel
>>free to submit
>>tips to.
>>
>>Redistribution
>>
>>ATM
>>
>>3550
>>
>>OSPF
>>
>>NAT
>>
>>HSRP
>>
>>F/R
>>
>>ISDN
>>
>>QOS
>>
>>Multicast
>>
>>NTP
>>
>>Voice
>>
>>Eigrp
>>
>>Please add your tip under the appropriate heading and send back to GS.
>>
>>Hope this helps lots of people.
>>
>>Packet Man
>>
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